Prince Filmy
Carbonite Member
Hi, i can buy vegas for my film sound. Is this good enough, is vegas professional enough to do film mix, or i go somewhere else
Sony Vegas for Mixing?
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Vegas will give you a good basic mix, but you will probably want to add something like Sound Forge to clean things up better - but neither will really give you the type of mix you would get in a full mix stage with Protools or some other high-end product. (I use Vegas+Sound Forge for all my Webinar recordings and it works fine for that - not sure it would fly in a theatrical setting).
Phil
Phil
Prince Filmy
Carbonite Member
how is nuendo program, anyone try please
You are better off with Nuendo. Vegas is not timecode capable, which is a big bummer. I'm dealing with a client that is using vegas. We are doing all of our stuff in pro tools, and delivering to the client, who uses vegas, and it is very frustrating because we have to do a lot of work so they can get the files.
Noiz2
Sound Ninja
What do you mean by "film"? If it's low budget video and your a one man band then maybe. If your talking 35mm NO. If you want to work on sound professionally at some point then if you have never used any DAW then any start is useful, but Pro Tools is 99.9% of the market in the US and if your working on a feature with a budget that is what you will be expected to know. In europe Nuendo has more of the market, but it is still tiny compared to ProTools. There are some other PC only products like Sadie that also have a hunk out side the US. The farther away from big budget features you get the more diversity you find. That said even at the lowest levels PT probably has 50% of the market.
In terms of capabilities Nuendo, ProTools, SAW (pc only) and a few others I can't think of , are all pretty similar.
Steve House
Veteran
First I've heard of it. Now if you're talking about linear TC recorded to an audio track, you're correct. But video TC and timestamps on BWF audio files, no problem.
pmark23
Veteran
As a former audio engineer, I can attest that Vegas is comparable to Pro-Tools. In many ways it's faster, and a lot easier to get things done. The first couple versions of Vegas were multitrack audio recorders/editors and not video editors, so the audio functionality is quite advanced.
Audio quality-wise, it sounds identical to Pro-Tools -- as does any digital-audio editing software. It uses the same VST and DirectX plugins, so any type of clean-up and effecting you need to do can be easily done.
Vegas handles SMTPE, only doesn't record it sync. :-(
Problems? Sample-level editing, putting an effect on only one clip. For this type of editing I export the file to Sound Forge.
Cubase or Nuendo is an excellent alternative to Pro-Tools (and is more capable in many ways).
However if you have to work with other studios, then you may be stuck with using Pro-Tools, since so many studios use it (or maybe Nuendo). But if you're doing the work yourself, Vegas+Sound Forge is more than capable.
Our projects (docs and corporates) are in three languages, have interviews combined with voice-over narration (multiple languages), music, background audio, and sfx -- and all is done quickly and easily within Vegas where the video is edited. The benefit is that we can get projects done FAST and get onto the next project without sacrificing audio quality.
Audio quality-wise, it sounds identical to Pro-Tools -- as does any digital-audio editing software. It uses the same VST and DirectX plugins, so any type of clean-up and effecting you need to do can be easily done.
Vegas handles SMTPE, only doesn't record it sync. :-(
Problems? Sample-level editing, putting an effect on only one clip. For this type of editing I export the file to Sound Forge.
Cubase or Nuendo is an excellent alternative to Pro-Tools (and is more capable in many ways).
However if you have to work with other studios, then you may be stuck with using Pro-Tools, since so many studios use it (or maybe Nuendo). But if you're doing the work yourself, Vegas+Sound Forge is more than capable.
Our projects (docs and corporates) are in three languages, have interviews combined with voice-over narration (multiple languages), music, background audio, and sfx -- and all is done quickly and easily within Vegas where the video is edited. The benefit is that we can get projects done FAST and get onto the next project without sacrificing audio quality.
Noiz2
Sound Ninja
Sorry that is a rather meaningless statement. Microsoft word is comparable to Pro Tools also. You can compare apples and oranges. Sorry if I sound harsh but I'm also a former audio engineer and my opinion as an engineer is really quite worthless in regards to Vegas VS Protools. My opinion as an editor is worth something though.
In what way on what machine? A fast Vegas editor will run rings around a beginning PT editor, and visa versa.
This is another of those "marketing" type statements that puts your whole post in question. Pro tools used RTAS and TDM plugins that Vegas doesn't. On the PC I believe you can use VST but I don't think you can use DirectX. A lot of RTAS and especially TDM plugins are not available in other formats. Secondly While as a general rule you are right that the "software" is going to all sound about the same (not totaly true but close) you are wrong in the implication that that translates to the working environment. What interfaces are you using?? That is a very big question and will definitely effect the sound. Pro Tools only works with it's own hardware. The upside of that is it works well with it's hardware. Vegas is using third party hardware. It might work well with what you have, but you are dependent on the third party and Microsoft to provide drivers that are compatible. In my PC days a LOT of time was spent trying to get a compatible version of driver X that broke when windows updated something or just plain forgot where the driver was. The up side is you can spend some serious cash and get a really great interface.
For an all in one shop or a place doing industrials and doc's only, any of the top apps (and I do include Vegas in that list) are fine. If your working in "film" then your shooting yourself in the foot to not use PT, or poss Nuendo.
Partly because of compatibility but also because of the amount of cutting you do in a narrative film compared to a doc or industrial. Narratives are held up against "Hollywood" films. And Hollywood uses a LOT of sound. I have gut on a number of platforms with a number of apps and PT is the one that felt most like it was designed to cut picture. I'm not going to say it's faster because of the point I made above. If you cut all day on Vegas you will (or should) be fast. I found PT to be the app that I got fast on the quickest.