Sony PVM-9L3 9-Inch Color Production Monitor

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The PVM-9L3 9-Inch Monitor is the standard monitor that I most evryone use. If anyone out there knows of any other options please ring in. I am also concerned about using this monitor with the anamorphic adapter. I have read other post saying I need up to 600 lines vertical resolution for good focusing . I have not been able to find a Portable monitor(running on batteries) with more than 450 lines of vertical resolution which the Sony PVM-9L3 has. Can someone explain to me again why a 9" 450 line monitor want work for acurate focusing with the anamorphic adapter?
Thanks again guys
 
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Sorry about the above post with all the typos. I tried to type and talk at the same time. I will try again - the Sony PVM-9L3 9-Inch Monitor has 450 Hoz. lines or resolution. Will this monitor work with the anamorphic adapter for focusing purposes. The reason I would like to use the PVM-9L3 is because it will run on batteries.
 
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It will work much, much better than using the LCD on the camera. The problem with such a little monitor is not only the lines of resolution, but when you switch it into 16:9 mode then the picture becomes smaller still -- probably on the order of about a 5.5" monitor. So it won't be nearly as effective as, say, a 13" monitor would have been, but a 450-line CRT is way better than using the LCD.
 
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Thanks for your help Barry,
I would rather use a larger monitor but I have not found anything larger, that is portable. The PVM-9L3 9-Inch Monitor is expensive enough by the time I purchase batteries and a charger oh and also a carrying case. My main concern is getting a sharp focus with the anamorphic. In most cases a non- portable would work. I just wanted to be power cord free if had to go very remote.
 
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Battery-powered monitors are few and far between, that's true. But battery-operability doesn't need to be the sole deciding factor... with a little effort and some weight, you can make normal monitors work -- you can get one of those booster-pac jump-start devices, and a small DC->AC inverter. For a total cost of about $150 or so, you'd have a field power source that would drive any monitor for maybe 4 hours or so.
 
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I guess if I want to use a monitor that will really get the job done I should go with the booster-pac jump-start device and DC->AC inverter. I thought about using my car's power through the use of a DC->AC inverter. But I don't think I would always be close to my car. Of course a long extension cord would take care of the majority of my shoots. I could just go without a monitor on those few times I'm away from an ac outlet.
Thanks Barry for helping me think through this.
I should be more concerned about the script I haven't written yet.
Later Man.
 
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That PVM9L3 monitor is an excellent portable monitor and I highly recommend it. Yes, in 16:9 it'll be small (but comparing to your LCD/viewfinder) it's huge. The 450 lines is more than enough to pull focus. As mentioned, a larger monitor might be preferable, but for a portable battery powered monitor, I think this is the best of the bunch.

Andrew
Crystal Clear Media
 
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Hey Andrew,
When you go much bigger than the PVM9L3 the monitor gets to big to carry around. With a bigger monitor I'm affraid I just wouldn't mess with it because of it's size.
But on the other, hand B&H sells the PVM-14L1 for around $650. I'm going to think about it for a few more days.
Thanks for answering my question on - if 450 lines is enough to pull focus.
 
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Does someone know of an online buyers guide or just general information about field/production monitors. I'd like to have something that I can use for editing and bring out in the field. Is it true that you have to connect your production monitor to your computer through your camera?

Basically, I'm assuming that the benefits of using a production monitor are it's accurate color and resolution (compared to a normal television). I sometimes connect my camera to my small television set near my desk while I'm editing and that helps me see how the footage will look on TV.

If you're not shooting with a 16x9 adaptor, is it worth buying? What are the benefits of viewing your footage on a studio monitor as opposed to another computer monitor while you're editing? Any links or even books I should take a look at?
 
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also, it doesn't look like B&H sells any portable monitors with more than 450 lines of resolution.
 
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"I sometimes connect my camera to my small television set near my desk while I'm editing and that helps me see how the footage will look on TV"

If anything is going to television, this should be a normal routine. Unless you're dealing with the high end HD LCD's, you won't find a normal LCD or computer monitor to be accurate like a corrected field monitor or in budget cases, a television. Of course color temperatures vary in most brands of tv's so a good field monitor is a must if you're stuff is viewed outside of a computer screen.

mike
 
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I am interested in a monitor for two basic reasons. One to use on location to help in framing and focusing and for general color and contrast monitoring. Without an anamorphic or when your not in the squeeze mode framing is not that big of an issue. But having a crt monitir of some sort on location has got to help, especially for me my eyes are not so good any more. Looking at that small lcd gets in my way, I feel, during those rare creative moments I might have. Second reason I would like to have a monitor in the editing studio, well for editin - especially if you have several tapes from different lighting and coloring shoots. A monitor becomes almost mandatory in the matching up of cut to cut. As far as a buyers guide just read the specs on each one that will tell you prety much what each mnitor can do. Previewing is done through the same firewire you use to capture. I use Vegas, it easy to send the preview out to external monitor through your camera or some sort of firewire capable DV deck .
 
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a 9" wont get you absolute critical focus with the anamorphic.. Sad but true. You can hookup a laptop to the camera to get an incredibly accurate focus, but you loose color accuracy, although there is some software for the mac than can replicate a CRT, but not perfectly.
 
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I remember reading another post that a minimum of 600 lines of resolution was needed for critical focus (or was it 750) with the anamorphic. This means at least a 13" rather heavy and not really portable monitor will be needed. I was hoping there was something out there that work. The only way to go, as I see it, is a PVM-14L1 powered by a AC/DC converter and battery. That is just too much to carry around. Sometimes I think that anamorphic is too much of a pain also.
Thanks Jarred for your help and this wonderful site.
 
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The anamorphic is definitely a pain, when compared to squeeze mode. It's much less hassle to shoot squeezed. But then there's the resolution tradeoff, as the anamorphic adapter can be *much* higher resolution...

Whoever mentioned the portable black & white monitor, that's an interesting idea -- if the primary purpose for getting the monitor is to check focus with the anamorphic, Panasonic makes a 9" b&w monitor with 800 lines of resolution... you could use that with an inverter and battery belt, I guess...
 
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well and to boot.. Sharp makes a new TFT 7" display with 800 lines of resolution. Color blows though.

For focus though, I like the bw monitor idea you guys are talking.. they go up and maybe even past 1000 lines now. That will be more than enough. The circus may be a little crowded with 2 monitors but what the hell.

Remember if you hit the underscan button.. you need more lines.
 
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OK. Don't everyone laugh, but...

I don't do this professionally (as yet). Just learning and having fun, so...

If I've got the camera up on the jib, I'll need to remote the video. (Duh) Do you think one of those teeny portable LCD DVD players would suit as a remote monitor? Most I've seen have video/audio I/O, they play 16:9, and won't break the bank.

If I'm mostly worried about framing, rather than color...?

Dan
 
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If you're just concerned about framing and not focus or acurate colors, a cheap LCD / DVD player will work fine.
 
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[quote author=Chenopup link=board=Links;num=1088009827;start=15#17 date=06/26/04 at 14:19:40]If you're just concerned about framing and not focus or acurate colors, a cheap LCD / DVD player will work fine. [/quote]


Plus, I could watch DVDs on it. :D

The PX has a bunch of them around $300. I think I'll bring the camera in and try them out...see which one looks best. Hopefully the Panasonic will, just to keep it in the family.

Dan
 
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I just looked at some B/W monitors, they are awsome. But not battery operated. The Sharp TFT 7" display with 800 lines of resolution sounds good but I bet it isn't battery operated either. It looks like Sony, JVC, Panasonic are missing the boat on this one.
 
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