sony ecm-674

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mrwillis

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Has anyone tried this mic?
I bought it together with my camera for allmost a year ago.(i knew nothing about sound, and thats what the seller recomended to me, so thats what i bought....)
I think the mike sounds o.k, but i would like to have an ever nicer sounding mic. (i don't get broadcast quality, if you know what i mean)

So my question to you, what mike would be the right mike for me?
I allso have the sennheiser g2 kit.

I shoot documentary's, and i am a one man show, so i do not use a boom operator. I do my sound hand held with a shock mounted pistol grip.
I know you all like the sennheiser 416, and the AT 4073, and i am considering the At4073. Will this be a much better mic for me? is there any cheaper ?
what is the natural step up for me? (rode ntg2, any better than what i have?)

Thanx for all the great info on this site, i have been reading it for the last 6 months, and i have to say i have gained alot of knowledge from this forum.

Mr Willis
 
I don't know that mic, so have no idea what it sounds like; but I am wondering what EXACTLY it is that you think you aren't getting from this mic? You mention it isn't "broadcast quality". What is your definition of that?
At least from the specs, that Sony mic doesn't seem all that bad, so it may well be that the [perceived] problem isn't the mic at all, but maybe your technique.

Have you tried other ways of recording your interviewees? You say you have the G2; are you getting "broadcast" quality from it?

Just trying to figure out exactly what it is that you feel isn't good enough with your current MO.
Otherwise the best suggestion might be to try some different techniques, and rent a few different mics to see what works for ya.
Specifically, regarding mics, an Oktava MK012 with hypercardioid cap and proper windprotection won't set you back much money, and works well in many situations.
 
thanx for the quick responce. I am no audio God, but i think the mic doesn't quite give me the clear nice sound that i was hoping to achieve(broadcast sound to me is a clean sound, that i hear on tv shows). i think the G2(with the provided mic, think its me2?, gives me a bit clearer sound. but then there that hiss sound, i have to remove in post.)

You mentioned the octava, did you mean for outdoor use? thought that was mostly for indoor use. I allso think i would get to much ambient from that mic. I film alot of fishing, and i think the noise from the river or from the sea would be ruining my shots. Think i need a quite narrow shotgun.

By the way, how much post work do you people do to your audio?
Are the most expensieve mics clean sounding without any post work?
 
When you hand-hold the ECM-674 with that pistol grip, how far would you say are you from the person or persons who are speaking?
 
I am not far away, i've learned a thing or two. The distance is not the problem I get nice audio levels. I would say 1-2 metres, any further than that i wont get any good audio.
 
mrwillis said:
I am not far away, i've learned a thing or two. The distance is not the problem I get nice audio levels. I would say 1-2 metres, any further than that i wont get any good audio.
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Well, see, 2m is a LOT: it's VERY FAR AWAY in audio gathering terms, ESPECIALLY if you are trying to get good audio in an environment such as the one you described (fishing/river/ocean).
The BEST mic won't help you much; sure it'll get you somewhat better audio if you use a super directional mic, but your BEST bet is to get that mic closer.

If mic visibility isn't a problem, you might even consider a head-worn mic for the persons fishing/talking. Then you're talking 1-2 INCHES not 4 - 7ft from mic to mouth. Even a [relatively] cheap head-worn mic will get you fantastic audio, compared to a great mic from 6ft away!

For a great and simple quick-tutorial on various mics, check out one of Ty Ford's most excellent videos, such as this one:
http://homepage.mac.com/tyreeford/.Public/Video/Ty Ford Mic Tutorial VIdeo.mp4
(MP4 file, about 28MB)
 
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