Someone please walk me through this...

Eraserhead2416

Eraserhead2416

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Alright, I've got a 48 minute concert I shot some time ago, and I'm having a hell of a time simply figuring out the best manner of output.

I've applied the Basic MB filter to liven up color and give it a warmer look, while tweaking sound for best volume, clear and powerful, while still removing the hum of the mic. This was not too much trouble.

Trouble is encountered upon rendering. I've never rendered out something quite this size, but 16 freakin hours is a bit much. I thought I'd render the effects in PP. that alone took 16 hours. But it doesn't seem to do anything for my output rendering time (media encoder, to MPEG2DVD settings).

I rendered out a couple chunks over the past two nights and used DVDlab to burn a DVD and see how it looks and plays. Video looks great, no noticable compression and it's plays smoothly even on my Xbox. BUT, upon moving to the next chunk of video, it hangs for a moment and I can't skip back to the last chunk of video. I can hit the menu button and jump to the beginning, but I'd rather have one big video to set chapter marks in to move around.

So, I need some help. What can I do to speed things up and provide a damn good DVD soon? Why isn't PP taking advantage of the footage I've rendered to speed things up? Can it? Or does it have to render the MB effects while compressing for DVD? Damn it where's the freaking page in the manual that says 'This is the best, fastest way to do things...'

I'm going to use Windows Movie Maker or something... then I'm going to hang myself.
 
Just render the project to a new .avi file (Export -> Movie) with your MB effects applied. Then when this completes (and 16 hours for a 48 minute project isn't too far off if it is complex) you will have a new .avi that you can use to make your DVDs from. Place the new .avi into a new project and, since it won't be burdened with all the effects, edits and MB overhead, it will be much easier to work with.

Depending upon your DVD authoring project, you might have better results if you use the Adobe Media Encoder to create your elemental streams for the DVD project. If it is a 24p project and destine for DVD you can create a 12 frame GOP which will have better quality than a 15 frame one.
 
Yeah, but would rendering it at all (just in the timeline or to an AVI to import back into the timeline) improve upon the export to DVD time? Or will it just, no matter what, be 32 hours?
Also, does rendering effects help export time, or just make editing smoother?
 
It'll save you time. When you use media encoder, it's rerendering from scratch to mpeg2. It's way faster to convert a no-nonsense single-file timeline to mpeg. However, as in that other thread, you're technically losing quality (DV-encoding is still encoding), though in most circumstances you're not going to notice it. Oh, and it's fast to export as DV AVI cause if you're already preview rendered, it's just copying all of those little preview clips to one big DV AVI file. Also do the 24p mpeg thing that khmuse said.
 
I left my comp to encode to MPEG2DVD overnight and it went great. Slapped it in DVDlab and it looks great on TV. Since I had to be zoomed in from the balcony it's not 100% sharp, but the sound is surprisingly good (we're talking a medium-sized church, high ceiling, from the balcony)

Hopefully I don't have to do anything quite this length again without some hardware compression capabilities.
 
Overnight isn't too bad for a lengthy project like yours. Glad to learn that it worked out for you.

Is it cold in Marion? I have relatives there and in Cedar Rapids.
 
Oh, geez, Cold? I don't think there's an adjective that could properly convey how cold it is. I had a guy come in to work we had to help out of his car because his door froze shut on the five minute drive over and he couldn't crack it open by himself. He ended up crawling out the window.

I'm starting to really truly learn the ins and outs of video production again, and this is my most successful project to date.
Take this one for example:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=40132
I'd like to do that one again, or at least incorporate new nighttime interior shots into it. The joke is still 50/50 with people, but I never expected everyone to get it. I need to include 20 minutes of clips from films, slashers in particular, and even Fellowship of the Ring, to remind people of the common usage of such an absurd decoy method.

Oh, and what would anyone recommend for labeling on the disc? A high quality sticker ran through a printer, or a printing device that prints directly on specially-made DVDs? I have limited access to both.
 
We just got back from CBS in Studio City. It was nearly 60 by the time we left. My daughter was complaining that she was "freezing", I could only laugh to myself thinking that this California kid has no idea what cold really is.
 
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