So will you switch to FCP or AVID to edit DVCPROHD?

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I have very little faith that Adobe will update PPro to edit DVCPROHD by the time the HVX comes out.

So now the choice is FCP or AVID. I am not sure which one I will pick. Which would you pick and why?
 
FCP, because I find the interface far better than Avid... maybe it's just because I learnt FCP first?

FCP Studio is a good buy for sure.
 
mmm said:
FCP, because I find the interface far better than Avid... maybe it's just because I learnt FCP first?

FCP Studio is a good buy for sure.
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Well that's you're opinion of course, but having edited on Avid since 1991 AND cut on FCPro, Avid wins hands down.

It's more of a film-style editing and has WAY better media management.

There's a reason why FCPro editors call Apple's system "Media MANGLER"! :grin:
 
mcgeedigital said:
Well that's you're opinion of course, but having edited on Avid since 1991 AND cut on FCPro, Avid wins hands down.

It's more of a film-style editing and has WAY better media management.

There's a reason why FCPro editors call Apple's system "Media MANGLER"! :grin:
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I did state it was just how I found it.

Did you learn Avid first? I guess you did if you have been using NLE's since 1991. You would have been using Avid for 8 years before Final Cut Pro 1.0 was released.

What I do know is that I am completely self taught in FCP, and presumed I would be able to do the same thing in Avid, but found it near impossible to do. I actually wanted to move to Avid, because at the time it was very much industry standard, but couldn't find a single reason for doing so.

The media management in FCP is different to Avid, and can make a mess if you don't keep tabs on it, however, once you learn to work with it, it is fine. It is one area the have really worked to improve.

At the end of the day, Avid and FCP will both do whatever you want to do. FCP tends to be cheaper, but obviously depends on your setup. I also know quite a few people who use both systems and know very few who think Avid is a simpler interface. I would try both for yourself and see, that's what I did once I could afford Avid, but found it was not possible to edit in the style that I was used to (I edit on the timeline a lot, which to most people is strange, but it is results in a very fast and detailed workflow).

Don't expect to become an expert with either program overnight, it will take a while, and some ripping of hair. Avid certainly made ME balder that FCP though.
 
There's another option as well, Canopus. Canopus has a fully-supported DVCPRO-HD implementation.

For Premiere Pro, there's another option too, but it's expensive: the Matrox Axio system will give you multiple streams of hardware-accelerated real-time DVCPRO-HD editing within Premiere Pro. It's about $11,500 though.
 
I for one would prefer to stay on Premiere, if for no other reason than the investment of time that I have made in learning Premiere and for the integration between it and the other Adobe programs that I use. If it turns out that they do not support DVCPRO-HD in Premiere, then I might consider the open HD solution (www.openhd.org), but the cost to get started is a little beyond my means.

For me, FCP doesn't make any sense for several reasons, not the least of which is that I have an extensive investment in PC hardware. Avid would seem to be a logical option, but I would want to consider all the possible NLEs (like Canopus) that might suit my needs. The guys that I know who are professional editors all tell me that Avid is really the only way to go, and in many ways, I am sure they are right, but I hate the idea of having to learn a new (or new to me) NLE.

I really hope that Adobe chooses to support DVCPRO, but I really won't be happy if I get my new HVX and can't use it for anything other than SD projects. I will give Adobe a bit of time, but likely not more than a few months at the most.

Sounds like it might be time to purchase a few books to get a bit of insight to the work flow and style of a new NLE.

I would be interested to hear of any ones experience going form being a Premiere Pro user to Avid.
 
I am using Premiere Pro currently, but have placed an order for Avid Express Studio HD essential. 995 for educational license. That will give ample time to learn before the HVX arrives in December.

I checked out Canopus as well.
 
BLUESPIDER said:
Give it time guys, Premiere will come through!
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I'd like to believe you're right, as Premiere is an essential and comfortable part of my workflow... but given Adobe's track record, I'm just not sure. Is anyone even considering Vegas as option? Just curious.
 
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