So I have this great idea for a movie...

Azmyth

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So the line starts....

Let's say I have this great concept, that I'm working on with another film maker in order to write a screen play. We already have 2 features under our belt with distribution for both, and we already have a location set up for this new film. We want to pull out all the stops, and make a "real" movie.. but still low budget. The movie we have we think we'll appeal to several different companies who might be interested in backing the project.

We already have a name that we are interested in attaching to the project, who is sort of in limbo in terms of his acting career but is still popular enough as a pop culture sensation to draw alot of attention to the project should he become attached.

Now, in order to make this movie we'd have to have much more funding than anything I've done to this point. Outside of him, we'd still cast regional actors, and quite possibly go under the SAG low budget agreement (if he's SAG). I'd hire a camera op with a RED ONE package, and hire some key crew members, and use my normal crew for the rest of the positions.

I thought about taking the screenplay directly to the actor, and seeing if he's interested in doing it. The movie would put his particular "line of work" in a positive light, and could possibly garner him some attention. I've used crowd funding in the past and from where I sit, the projects who meet their "large" goals.. are ones with a built in fan base already. My thought process is that if I could get this actor interested and attached to the project, would having his name help us raise funds via crowd funding? He's something of a pop culture icon that alot of people will know from their child hood.

The film is not a "christian" movie, because of some of its content.. but would have a positive message that would appeal to that crowd as well.

I want to take this to several avenue's in order to get funding, but what are your thoughts on bringing this to the actor before I even go any further?
 
Absolutely get him on board first if you can. A movie with a celebrity attached to it has a much much higher chance of getting made. Your life will be immensely easier.
 
So you already have some proper method of contacting this actor directly? If so, sure, show the script to him - but be prepared for the possibility that he may not like it.
 
I want to take this to several avenue's in order to get funding, but what are your thoughts on bringing this to the actor before I even go any further?

Getting someone, even if marginally recognized... is better than having no one... From what I've been reading and seeing of late, it seems that more and more filmmakers are going a bit further in the past to create funding promo materials. The old model, write up a treatment... find a producer... producer gets money... make movie, seems to be a loosing deal.

Get the actor, stage a few scenes, create a trailer, and get going with one of the crowd funding sites, and perhaps use those for making a better 'trailer'... I don't know what amount is a typically successful goal... but asking 100-200K probably is not going to work... maybe $5K for a trailer (or call it a short film...) could be more successful...
 
...Let's say I have this great concept, ...

OK, Let's.

From making your first feature, you now have a much better idea of your own capabilities and limitations. When I see what other first timers from around here have done, ie. Faith Granger, I'm just totally blown away. If you can get a name on board with "just a concept" that would be totally amazing. Make it happen.
 
Here'd be my plan of action:

1) Try and get funding (mention your name actor is interested... maybe you can get some type of holding deal with the investors)
2) If that doesn't work, try and get your name actor to sign (mention you have investors interested)
3) As interest rises, repeat.

It doesn't hurt you to try and get funding first, if the investors say no you can always go to someone else. However, there is a small chance that coming to your name actor with nothing will put you in the "Unprepared kid" category, your script gets forwarded to the agents and you never hear from them again.

It's highly unlikely your actor is going to come on without funding in place first anyway, so-- if you can't get funding first definitely contact the name actor, BUT there's absolutely no reason you shouldn't try and get the funding first-- or at least have a soft commitment from an investor to tell the actor about. "We have a deal to get funding if you're involved" is a much, much stronger pitch than "If you get involved, we might be able to get funding."
 
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I've actually got a delusion at the moment that I could get an actor attached (and I mean a big time actor, almost everyone knows him) to my current feature length screenplay... his absolutely 100% perfect for this role (and I mean perfect, as in it almost feels as if the part was written for him), but alas... I know the chances. But ship on man, maybe you'll inspire us all.
 
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I've actually got a delusion at the moment that I could get an actor attached (and I mean a big time actor, almost everyone knows him) to my current feature length screenplay... his absolutely 100% perfect for this role (and I mean perfect, as in it almost feels as if the part was written for him), but alas... I know the chances. But ship on man, maybe you'll inspire us all.

Have you spent any time at all finding out which agency represents the actor? I found out by accident that a perticular agency represented an actress I had considered for a role in one of my projects when I was getting information on a couple of their DPs. People (even at agencies) can't keep their big yaps shut and when word got out, I had the rep. of this actress contact me. If it had been the other way around, I'm sure I wouldn't have got the time of day.
 
Have you spent any time at all finding out which agency represents the actor? I found out by accident that a perticular agency represented an actress I had considered for a role in one of my projects when I was getting information on a couple of their DPs. People (even at agencies) can't keep their big yaps shut and when word got out, I had the rep. of this actress contact me. If it had been the other way around, I'm sure I wouldn't have got the time of day.

I'm going to keep a hold on the idea, and really get the script up to scratch in the meantime. This would be my first feature, and it's going to be tough nonetheless. Once I feel confident with my circumstances, abilities, and screenplay then I might just try to get in contact with the actor's agent (if I don't, then I guess I wouldn't be able to live with myself). Hopefully he actually gets to read it (I can imagine the amount of scripts the agent receives in a week. Most of them probably just read the log line and throw it away in 5 seconds.)

It really is all up in the air, so the way I see it: I'll make this feature with or without the actor. If he does come on board, then we talking some serious support in terms of budget ($20 mil minimum). If he is ever attached to the project then it'd be great because this film is hardly mainstream, and with films like that you need all the help you can get.

Anyway, don't want to hijack the thread. Mostly delusions and dreams on my part.
 
In my opinion ( based from my personal experience) getting a name attached prior to seeking finance leaves you a lot more likely to get your project backed. When it comes down to it, investing in a film is all about factoring risk. An investor only makes money when the film makes money. Simple concept. Generally speaking, from years of proven history, films with attached name actors generally have a higher chance of making money. The viewing public as a whole will typically choose to see a movie with a familiar named actor over a film where the talents are unknown. There are, of course, exceptions that disprove the rule, but the truth is...its a sad reality. All of that being said, having a named actor attached to your film will go a long way at putting your investors at ease with backing your project...especially if your financiers are not generally unvolved in the entertainment industry (i.e. rich friends, doctors, lawyers, business owners, etc who are interested in making an "exciting" investment). If you can get him attached, than awesome...in my opinion, the best way to appraoch him will be a carefully worked conversation. Dont give the impression that he is paramount to receiving the funding to produce the film, but also dont be afraid to let him know that his comittment to the project will open up more doors in the development of the film.
If he digs the film, and expresses interest, than get him to at least give you some form of letter of intent.

Good luck with everything...i hope it goes well!
 
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