So how are you liking Premiere TODAY?

MattinSTL

MattinSTL

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I'm f*cking hating it.

You know... I crank out a couple projects I'm happy with and then start liking Premiere again.

I've been on Premiere for about 4-5 years... since before Vegas was even around (I think)... and the problem is once you get comfortable in an environment you want to stay there.

ADOBE... listening? YOU SUCK!

My Premiere system crashed on me once before after about 40 hours of editing a sports video over the course of a WEEK... and it crashed 2 days out as I thought I'd cruise the project in a day early. EVERYTHING was lost!

Guess what? Zombie project? Yeah... now I gotta' f*cking scramble something together in Vegas and unfortunately the ONLY thing I've been using Vegas for is the speed rubberbands... oh, sorry... the "velocity envelope".

Well, I guess now is as good a time as any to embrace Vegas.

F*CK YOU ADOBE... I wish you were a buddy of mine so I could meet you for lunch and punch you in the face.
 
So far the only bad thing i have seen about premiere is the lack of suport for 24p normal. Kinda hard to work with any type of 24p if you cant turn it into 29.97 properly. If you say that prmiere has crashed and you lost everything that doesnt sound like a problem with the program rather maybe your system. You could have had autosave on while editing and then you could have only lost 5 minutes if your porject file became corrupt becasue you can laways revert back to the archived project files. Premiere had the easiest worksapce i have used and even gives people that use other nle's the ability to easily transition into premier by using preset keyboard shortcuts for final cut and avid express.
 
lost everything?
I had some crashes (I actually lost a RAID array once) but I use ntbackup (the built-in backup utility) to back up all the file on my video data disc to another physical disc (I exculde video files, render files and audio conform files)
it runs daily and it takes a couple of gigs on the other drive but I know that the worst thing that can happen is having to recapture (I can live with that)

when I work on a big project I set it to run every couple of hours (since it only backs up changes it's pretty fast)

this remindes me of a couple designers I worked with who never saved their work, and everytime their macs crashed they were crying and screaming
 
EShy said:
lthis remindes me of a couple designers I worked with who never saved their work, and everytime their macs crashed they were crying and screaming
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They should have been kicking and screaming BECAUSE they were developing on a Mac. :laugh:
 
MattinSTL said:
I'm f*cking hating it.

You know... I crank out a couple projects I'm happy with and then start liking Premiere again.

I've been on Premiere for about 4-5 years... since before Vegas was even around (I think)... and the problem is once you get comfortable in an environment you want to stay there.

ADOBE... listening? YOU SUCK!

My Premiere system crashed on me once before after about 40 hours of editing a sports video over the course of a WEEK... and it crashed 2 days out as I thought I'd cruise the project in a day early. EVERYTHING was lost!

Guess what? Zombie project? Yeah... now I gotta' f*cking scramble something together in Vegas and unfortunately the ONLY thing I've been using Vegas for is the speed rubberbands... oh, sorry... the "velocity envelope".

Well, I guess now is as good a time as any to embrace Vegas.

F*CK YOU ADOBE... I wish you were a buddy of mine so I could meet you for lunch and punch you in the face.
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Ever try System Restore? :thumbsup:
 
I just don't see any real problems with Premier. I have used it on a number of different pieces of hardware, from a fairly meager notebook up to a dual Xenon processor workstation. I would question any machine that crashes, even if infrequently. I can really understand not wanting to change applications once you have made an investment of time in learning one. At some point, even if a new application and hardware to run it on were free, it still doesn't make economic sense to switch.

We use a lot of different PCs at my office (manufacturing/engineering company) and I can't remember the last time one crashed (a number haven't been rebooted in years). We do try to keep our machines clean and I don't allow my employees to install unnecessary applications, so we just don't have any issues around here.

You might want to give Premier another try on a fresh machine and see if you don't have a better time with it.
 
editing Next Door Nikki videos like nobodys business...built some new export settings for WMV exports and will hopefully be saving my boss lots of bandwidth. Even got help with a 720x405/406 problem today.

today was a good day.
 
i been using premiere since 6 i think or somthing....now i'm on 1.5 and never crashes and i edit for a living..now u might wonder, why does he edit on pc for a living..well.....heeh i'm just used to it, but one day a MAC wif fcp will have to happen.
 
I've been using Premiere since version 5. I've upgraded up to Pro and built entire PC's around it. I find that if used with capture hardware (like Canopus) it works very well. But on it's own through a firewire port? It just sucks. There I said it ... I'm free.... after all these years...

Anyone who says that their Premiere Pro system (without capture hardware) runs without a hitch is in denial.

Vegas here I come.
 
Wow... I hadn't checked this thread since the first reply!

I was able to get most of my stuff back and I found some bugs which smoothed the Premiere out a little bit. I'm on 6.5 I guess.

For the record I also have Vegas, but I have a Canopus RT card with analog out... and I can't get Vegas to give me my TV preview... so that alone keeps me going back to Premiere.

I also agree that Mac with FCP is the "final solution" as Cartman would say...

I had a mac before... back in the DAY... It was a powermac 810av with a sledgehammer 4 gig HD that came in a package which EXPRESSLY prohibited exporting this super-high-tech 4 GIG drive out of the country!

I shoulda' saved that ****... it was a hand-me-down NLE from my brother and he paid around $17K for it... by the time I got it I'd say it was worth about $500... and when I pitched all that **** in the trashcan I think it MIGHT have been worth $20. I wish I'd have filmed myself crushing it all with a sledgehammer... the irony of it would have been great. Plus I've never taken a sledgehammer to something somebody paid $17 GRAND for before!

Before you think I did something really stupid you gotta' realize the age of this crap... it was used in conjunction with Sony 3/4" decks... and was only quasi-NLE...

Yeah the thing that sucks the most is once you get comfortable in an NLE environment it's hard to change... I can rock a video out in Premiere.

What is YOU'RE normal time to edit? Like say your zombie thing? A day... 2 days... a week?

Also I've said it before... but for those who haven't tried it... you haven't LIVED until you have full-sized, real-time TV preview/output.
 
god I hope somebody answers that too!

If I have to do "batch processing" which isn't what it sounds like... or you'd think it was... I drag my effects window over right next to the timeline... just position everything nice and tight... then I drag and set as fast as I can as I'm zoomed out on the timeline... so that you just have to hit each bit.

I can do that pretty quick but it really sucks! I've always thought there MUST be a way to apply everything to ALL the clips in one track.

I'm actually on an upgraded Premiere 6.0... so it's like 6.3

I hope somebody else answers your question 'cause it would help a lot of us. When I was telling everybody to brighten their zombie footage no one ever said they could do it all at once... and it's not like you could dump the timeline to tape... and send it back in just to weld it... and then apply to everything... 'cause you'd change titles and black fades.

You probably COULD do that to apply eq to an entire audio track though... as long as you eq the main tracks before applying any music... follow me?
 
in PPRO or 6.5 you can select all clips in a track and paste an effect to them all by using the multi tool. it selects all clips in the track starting from where you click.. then just paste the effect youve copied
in PPRO you can apply track level effetcs such as eq and that in the mixer window.. you have to click on the little triangle over on the left hand side of the volume faders to expand the fx/sends view. in order to copy and paste the track level audio effects .. ive never tried but i would try doing it in the mixer windowas well .
 
MattinSTL said:
I can do that pretty quick but it really sucks! I've always thought there MUST be a way to apply everything to ALL the clips in one track.
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Use Nested Sequences if you want to apply an effect to all footage or all audio at the same time.

/Roger
 
Where the hell were you guys when everybody was desperate to brighten the web versions of their zombie flicks!

Jeez...

(but thanks for commenting now)
 
To answer the original question: "So, how are you liking Premiere Today?"

The answer is quite simple. When used in conjunction with a real-time card like the Matrox RXT100, it rocks!!! The realtime capabilities alone are worth it. In a production environment where time is money, true realtime output (not realtime preview) is a boon.

I am now using FCP 5 Studio at home on an iMac G5 1.8GHz, granted, it's no PowerMac, but I miss the realtime options when I need to rush things along. Render, render, render... that's a real drain on creativity.

At work we are using Premiere Pro with Matrox RTX100. Cheap investment for all that realtime. Granted it doesn’t have all those nifty things you'd find in FCP (Livetype alone is a nice to have), but for Regional TV content where speed of editing is crucial, I wouldn’t have it any other way. Sure Avid+Mojo and Canopus Edius SP are other valid options (and probably better), but those complete solutions are 2 to 3 times more expensive... multiply this by 5 for the number of editing stations, and you suddenly can live with Adobe Premiere Pro's little idiosyncrasies.
 
Flintstone said:
The answer is quite simple. When used in conjunction with a real-time card like the Matrox RXT100, it rocks!!!
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Fred-

Can you suggest a reputable place to purchase just the card? I've found it at Newegg for nearly $1200.00 bucks but it comes bundled with all sorts of software titles that I don't need. I just want the card.

Any suggestions?

Rick
 
rlm7189 said:
Can you suggest a reputable place to purchase just the card? I've found it at Newegg for nearly $1200.00 bucks but it comes bundled with all sorts of software titles that I don't need. I just want the card.
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I am not Fred and i can not suggest a place to buy it, but you can buy only the card from Matrox - "Matrox RT.X100 Xtreme Pro HW". (HW stands for Hard Ware)

Before you buy, visit http://www.matrox.com/video/support/rtx100xtremepro/rec/home.cfm and take a look at the system recommendations. If you are using parts that not has been validated by Matrox you will probably run into problem with the Matrox card.

More about RT.X100: http://www.matrox.com/video/products/rtx100xtremepro/home.cfm

/Roger :)
 
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