smashing through a wall

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chrislancaster

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My character will be running into an interior wall smashing through and coming out the other side of brick and landing on sidewalk



my problem is the inside will be done on a sound stage where i plan on just using brute force and running through it

but the outside wall will most likely be brick and i dont know if i should green screen or what i can do?

can you help?
 
ok doesnt have to be exactly this ..if you have any alternatives or something similar or close to this effect It would really help
 
Plaster walls are easy to break through. For the brick, you can stack fake bricks. Just add dust. Or, if you don't want to do that for whatever reason, use the dust to hide that nothing happened. Maybe mixed with compositing to show the beginning of the wall breaking.
 
i think i will put the bricks out and add smoke then try to add an explosion in post... thanks

Im not familiar with plaster walls but will do some home work ..thanks for the advice
 
creative editing my freind.. creative editing. selling an effect is done through alot more than simply trying to show it as a photoreal and realtime event. ..sell it with sound and creative camera angles that let you show less and still have big impact.

if your going to break through a peice of drywall on the stage make sure the studs are far apart for leverage on the material to break and for safety, and you may want to use 1/4" drywall as im not really sure you realise how strong 1/2 or 3/4" drywall can be to try and run right through it. .. your likely to get hurt.

..for the breaking out the exterior which is really wher the VFX is needed, try either getting in real close with a long lense so that your smaishing debris filling the frame and can mask alot of stuff with the chaos there.. or shoot from the side or top where you can use stock of debris smashing out from the side and we dont have to see the damaged wall because of our angle. really he could just be running out pretend smashing through a door that opens inward, and we would have no clue from the side with the addition of debris flying out.. we would just assume he went through the wall because we cant see the door or wall. ..also if you have some people throw out real debris and dust when he runs out it will help with the realsim and sell the shot better when comping with any stock.

you could also cut from iside to a shot of the aftermath after the hole is already in the wall and dust is just settling as the guy is getting up.

..or whatever. ..point is that if you creatively shoot and edit the shot with some good sound you can avoid having to actually try and run through a brick wall or show the actuall wall breaking by showing us what our minds will summarize as the wall having been smashed through. ..or if youd really like to show the actuall wall smashing, using stock or setting up a bunch of lightweight bricks in front of a greenscreen to bust through would be the way I would go about it. just be careful.
 
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this is amazing advice... I was thinking about cutting the part out i would go through and replace it with foam core ? board and then have it shot from the side

with lots of smoke and debris

thanks again
 
Probably should have detailed that. Yes, if you use drywall, get as thin as you can and make it extra breakable. Replacing it with foam core is an excellent idea, probably the best one to make it work. You can also score the drywall deeply so that it breaks at the slightest impact. That's most of how I cut them in construction work. Usually on purpose. Tear the outer papery layer off on at least one side, since they rip in long strips rather than break apart.

Also, if you don't want to CGI debris, you can toss a bunch of it up in front of a black screen (lit to show up pretty much pure black on camera) and use screen blending to key out the background. And remember to put bricks on the ground in the after shoot, even if you aren't showing the hole in the wall; enough bricks, broken especially, that it would make room for your person to come through. And work out sound, which I think is going to be the major selling point for the effect.
 
I will definitely try the black screen idea ... I can easily key that out


I am thinking i will green screen the "hole" on the brick wall and then insert a shot of the interior of the room I used on the sound stage

I don't see why that wouldn't work
 
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