Silicon Imaging SI-1920HDVR Camera

Ari your efforts regarding the footage available it is so much appreciated here and all over the forums, as well, for your excellent product. But please, we'd like to watch some good stuff well directed, with a more efficient focus puller and perhaps better cinematography.

I dislike to say this but that's because I believe in the potential of your product -- as you all know, that I'm trying to push for your baby.

And if possible, as lighter as possible. The plastic idea (of good quality, of course!) to the lateral panels (without to touch in the structure) it will be a good idea to run & gun work. I've been to give your example to RED team, so that's my turn to ask here the RED pattern for your valuable work.
 
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We hear the need for lighter and smaller. That is the direction we will go!

What other requirements are there to make this a useful production tool for the market? Which are nice to have and which are must have?
 
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We hear the need for lighter and smaller. That is the direction we will go!
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I'm glad, very glad. :cheesy: Even today, I was talking with my partners in order to decide if we are going with another RED or with you@next_september as lighter as possible. Smaller? Better yet!!

What other requirements are there to make this a useful production tool for the market?
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One sole sentence: Not forget the best (synchro) sound on camera as far as it gets.
 
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Go Blue!
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:laugh:

No...go RED and go Silicon Imaging!

But seriously speaking, are you thinking in a smaller and lighter cam for sure? At September?

I can confess when I read 13lbs (actually at same day of your press-release), I made myself the exercise to take the weight over my shoulders. Heavy...
 
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I'm doing three different jobs into the filmmaking business, consulting and teaching.

And to digital cinema education/training purposes, myself and my team we are thinking to have more than a choice. And yours it is very attractive as lighter/smaller as possible -- as I already said!
 
Having some sort of film-look presets would be really really nice. Most Indie film-makers want their digital-film to look less video-ish. Any efforts towards that end would be highly appreciated by all.
 
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Film Look

Fugitive said:
Having some sort of film-look presets would be really really nice. Most Indie film-makers want their digital-film to look less video-ish. Any efforts towards that end would be highly appreciated by all.
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Can you give us more ideas of what you would like to see in camera versus what is applied in post? And what level of controls should be implemented?


Note: The fact that we preserve 10-f stops of dynamic range and have a gamma/log style curve applied we already have the ability to get closest to a film look in our price range. Remember, we record the raw data and any color look can be applied in post. In any event, we want your input and want to deliver the camera and features the market demands. You may not get all the features in the first release but software enhancements will be on-going.

WYSINAYWG...What you see (now) is not all you will get :).
 
Ari, I think the camera is great. As most have asked, a viewfinder would be very very likeable. It would just show picture, and not controls, as was discussed already, i think.

And the body design is very good. very functional. If there was a way to make it more, say, pretty, something that would reflect a real film cinema camera counterpart, that feature would be very very attracitve. The Rai and Drake camera did a really cool body design For their 2/3" cmos camera project. looks very nice, rugged, yet smooth. and is basically like yours functionally:
http://www.drachenfeder.com/aktuelles/drake_hd_en.htm#kamera

i see the handle implemented on yours. but i wonder what it would look like without a handle on top, and instead, but a shoulder mount to go with the baseplate. that would be very nice.
 
Ari Presler said:
You may not get all the features in the first release but software enhancements will be on-going.
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Good idea...

WYSINAYWG...What you see (now) is not all you will get :).
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We hope so, specially regarding a noiseless care to improve, as well, the hardware and a form factor/design more attractive to rent -- «as far as it gets».
 
I was wondering why time-lapse isn't supported. Not that I need it (not yet anyway) but since even the lower end sony trv17 supports it, it must be cheap to implement. Also, I am sure it must be handy for those National Geagraphic type documentary makers. Imagine recording a flower bloom, in full RAW HD resolution. sweet!
 
Fugitive. I think they already support timelaspe

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Flexible Frame-Rates and Resolutions
Special Effects and off-speed shooting modes include a variety of overcranking and undercranking modes. Slow-Motion shots can be captured at speeds up to 72fps in 720P mode, 3-times 24P film rate. Long-duration events are captured using the Time-Lapse recording feature or using the long exposure mode, which accumulates light over several frame times to exaggerate motion. "

http://www.siliconimaging.com/DigitalCinema/key_features.html
 
Here is the current interface for 1080P, 720P and Time Lapse rate control. We are open to requests and suggestions...


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Ari, the camera needs the 2.39:1 framing box to show beyond the edge using a 25 to 50% darkening effect. This is for anticipating subject moves by letting the camera op see beyond the frame, very helpful. Also, the audio meters need a few dB & peak markings, otherwise what's the point?
 
This is excellent input! What granularity do you suggest on the dB indicators?

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Framing box shading will also be added to the feature request list!
 
The audio meter could have, 0 at the top, and working it's way down, the all important -3, and then -5, -9,-12, etc... possibly becoming larger increments as it gets quieter. Also, dynamic and static peak level indicators are valuable. Those are the little marks that stay momentarily to indicate where the peaks are hitting. A red or blue peak indicator light would be a nice asset for this. All the data should be available for monitors other than the camera LCD. A feed to the director monitor should supply all this info so the the script sup & others can work the numbers and keep on top of all the tricky little stuff.

For audio meters I'd suggest you look around at audio software & editing software & see what would compliment these systems. The Total Production System should be as seamless as possible, from camera to DVD/filmout.

I would also consider an option for having 4 more crosshairs (maybe light blue) along with the white center crosshair (total 5), optional via the menu: none, 1 or all 5. I would place these 4 crosshairs at the TIC TAC TOE, "rule of 3rd " intersection for helping assist composition. They would need to be set for each of the aspect ratios and could be turned off/on.

This helps when operators get tired and forgetful, hey!....just keep the talent's eyes on the top 3d line!
 
The suggestion for Audio metering was very timely and I am sure everyone will be pleased with our implementation.

As fas as TIC TAC TOE, "rule of 3rd " display mode. I question how many indies would actually use this mode. Any other opinions?

BTW, This is a MUST SEE....

SI-1920HDVR D-Cinema Camera with Cineform RAW Codec - Studio Daily Feature Video

Studio Daily has produced a comprehensive look at the Silicon Imaging SI-1920 D-Cinema Camera and Cineform RAW Workflow demonstration and IN OPERATION at NAB2006!!!

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Some Like It Raw
May 8, 2006 Source: Studio Daily

It's not enough to develop a camera anymore, Silicon Imaging is defining a workflow, leveraging compression and metadata to maintain color space.
Click below to watch the video or download it to your iPod.

http://www.studiodaily.com/main/news/headlines/6536.html


http://www.studiodaily.com/main/news...ines/6536.html
 
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