shot in squeeze, import as anamorphic?

evolvnyc

evolvnyc

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I'm confused by many of the prior posts... if i shot in 24p squeeze, and I want to capture the footage both to make a widescreen dvd, and also to play back letterboxed in a 4:3 timeline, what do I chck for import settings (anamorphic) and then will it automatically have black bars in a 4:3 sequence?
 
you DON'T want to play back squeeze or anamorphic in a 4:3 timeline with black bars.

A 4:3 timeline and a widescreen DVD are mutually exclusive because 4:3 is not widescreen.

You want to work on a 16:9 (widescreen) timeline and then make a widescreen DVD. THe DVD player will interpret the footage based on the TV it's attached to and then display it properly on eithe a widescreen TV with no black bars or properly on 4:3 television WITH black bars.

Video shot with the anamorphic adaptor or shot is squeeze produces video that when stretched out to loook normal is actually SHAPED 16:9 not 4:3

When you see a 16:9 DVD on a 4:3 television the DVD player is shrinking the 16:9 image so that it fits in the 4:3 frame ... since the 16:9 image is wider than it is tall, you get negative black space at the top an bottom or letter box.

If you want 4:3 letterboxed video you should have shot 4:3 video, imported, dropped in a 4:3 timeline and then just added letterboxed because
A) squeeze is slightly lower resolution that letterboxing
and
B) you can reframe in post by sliding the image up and down behind the black bars.

Now what you have created doesn't belong on a 4:3 timeline.

You can still put it there but there's no point if you are going to letterbox it ... in other words the only reason to put it on a 4:3 timeline is if you wanted to cut off a significant portion of the right and left edges of the image.

For web, TV, or film transfer you want to
1)Capture this Anamorphic (that's what squeeze is. An anamporphic image whether achieved via the anamorphic adaptor or using squeeze, only difrference is resolution is better withe the ananmorphic adaptor and shooting is easier using squeeze. Both look "squeezed" unless played on a 16X9 monitor)

2) Edit on a 16X9 timeline (unless you have some fetish for blackbars or something) because when you put your movie online you won't have any black bars, it will just be widescree, in other words it will be shaped like a rectangle and it will be a smaller file per the size of the image since you aren't waisting bandwidth on black bars.


3) Export or encode your finished film and burn a widescreen DVD, again the DVD plaer will take care of adding any letterboxing for 4:3 screens and playing it full size on widescreens.
 
I read in the manual however that it wasn't necessary to check the "anamorphic" box in the import prefs because it would recognize it regardless. So now it looks right in a 4:3 timeline but has bars, and looks stretched in a anamorphic timeline... so do I have to recapture as anamorphic?
 
Surpised it was clear at all as I read back over it, but glad to be of help.

I'm in brooklun too.

Are you coming to the NY DVXuser meeting -- I think its april 30th look in the Group Meeting forum to make sure.

We meet for a couple of hours and then go for drinks.

I think the next meeting is gonna be on compression for output to dvd and web -- the most mysterious part of the whole process to me.
 
evolvnyc said:
I read in the manual however that it wasn't necessary to check the "anamorphic" box in the import prefs because it would recognize it regardless. So now it looks right in a 4:3 timeline but has bars, and looks stretched in a anamorphic timeline... so do I have to recapture as anamorphic?
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look down in the browser window and see if the anamorphic column is checked or not.

If its not, then just put a check there, delet the one in the 16X9 timeline and drag it in again.

Double check that you have checked anamorphic in the settings for the timeline.

If that doesn't work go to motion for the clip and try toggling the aspect ratio between 1, 0, and 33 (can't rememember which is right) and see if that works.

Otherwise I'd say recapture.
 
anamorphic is checked in the browser, but when i change the sequence settings to 16:9 it is super stretched and has black bars in the 16:9 timeline...?

Yeah, sounds cool, I will check that forum, thanks!
 
It must have captured in correctly because that's what 4:3 would look like in a 16:9 timeline.

with the video sacled to 100% toggling the aspect ratio between 0,1, and 33.33 should tell you something because one of those should look right.

If any of those settings cause it to look normal (not stretched) but appear as a small square with black on all 4 sides, then you have 4:3 video, not anamorphic and need to recapture.

Try recaptureing I guess.
 
in the viewer it's perfect and in the canvas, it has blueframes around the actual, correct sized, 16:9 footage but has black bars added on top and bottom.... try recapture tomorrow, now it's time for drinks! cheers!
 
Before I can make a DVD I have to export a quicktime movie. I've exported the quicktime in 2 different sizes. 720x480 - which is the right dimensions since my timeline is anamorphic and also at 640x480 where it looks squeezed - BUT both of my dvds are squeezed. The only way i can get any dvd player (i've tried 3) to play it properly is for me to put the mask on it. Am i exporting the quicktime wrong or is there a setting in iDVD??
 
Spence77 said:
Before I can make a DVD I have to export a quicktime movie. I've exported the quicktime in 2 different sizes. 720x480 - which is the right dimensions since my timeline is anamorphic and also at 640x480 where it looks squeezed - BUT both of my dvds are squeezed. The only way i can get any dvd player (i've tried 3) to play it properly is for me to put the mask on it. Am i exporting the quicktime wrong or is there a setting in iDVD??
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make your 720 480

sometimes to be on the safe side depending on what DVD software youe are usine, open the quicktime movie ... view video properties ... uncheck maintain aspect ratio ... change 480 to 404 so that its 720 X 404.
 
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