I just shot a local band using a borrowed Dvx100, with a line to the bar’s mixing board. I manually controlled the volume levels, but no matter what I did the audio feed sounded distorted. Someone suggested that I needed a direct box to match the mixer to camera. What am I doing wrong?
Shooting Live Bands?
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Re: Shooting Live Bands?
I have shot live bands before, and I have always used mini disc to record the sound. I used to speak to the sound mixers to record the sound for me, and they did.
The pain in the arse, is the editing part, matching the sound. Well, if you are only using one camera, that is easy, but if you are working with two cameras and trying to make it look as if you had loads of cameras, that is hard (more time consuming than hard!).
Anyway, all the best
Fidel.
I have shot live bands before, and I have always used mini disc to record the sound. I used to speak to the sound mixers to record the sound for me, and they did.
The pain in the arse, is the editing part, matching the sound. Well, if you are only using one camera, that is easy, but if you are working with two cameras and trying to make it look as if you had loads of cameras, that is hard (more time consuming than hard!).
Anyway, all the best
Fidel.
ullanta
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Re: Shooting Live Bands?
Check:
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for extensive discussion of this...
Check:
http://www.dvxuser.com/cgi-bin/DVX2/YaBB.pl?board=Links;action=display;num=1080751160
for extensive discussion of this...
DVX100Shooter
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Re: Shooting Live Bands?
Can't you take a direct feed from the mixing board - LINE in opposed to MIC level? When I shoot major concerts for the news I always bring the mix into the camera at LINE level and then adjust my levels if need be and everything sounds fine.
Can't you take a direct feed from the mixing board - LINE in opposed to MIC level? When I shoot major concerts for the news I always bring the mix into the camera at LINE level and then adjust my levels if need be and everything sounds fine.
Michael_Nice
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Re: Shooting Live Bands?
thing is alot of the time even if you do get a clean feed it won't matter because the sound is being mixed for a live audience(lots of bass) not for a stuidio situation so the feed will be distorted no matter what
thing is alot of the time even if you do get a clean feed it won't matter because the sound is being mixed for a live audience(lots of bass) not for a stuidio situation so the feed will be distorted no matter what
dvpixl
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Re: Shooting Live Bands?
best thing to do is actually record it in house to a CD or harddrive system hooked up to the mixer- then sync it up. pain in the arse yes, but it ain't that difficult to sync it up... just think of the good sound you'll be getting.
but someone mentioned that sound guys mix for the house and not studio... if that's true, do pro's who make concert DVD's have separate mixers going for the concert and DVD? hmm.... sounds expensive.
best thing to do is actually record it in house to a CD or harddrive system hooked up to the mixer- then sync it up. pain in the arse yes, but it ain't that difficult to sync it up... just think of the good sound you'll be getting.
but someone mentioned that sound guys mix for the house and not studio... if that's true, do pro's who make concert DVD's have separate mixers going for the concert and DVD? hmm.... sounds expensive.
DVX100Shooter
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Re: Shooting Live Bands?
Michael thats not always true. Like I said I shoot for the News/Entertainment and everytime I hook up to a board at a concert I am getting a good clean feed to my camera so I can broadcast it on TV without it sounding horribly distorted. I have not had any problems and I have shot people like Janet Jackson, ZZtop, Jay Z, Aerosmith and many many other groups over the years.
Michael thats not always true. Like I said I shoot for the News/Entertainment and everytime I hook up to a board at a concert I am getting a good clean feed to my camera so I can broadcast it on TV without it sounding horribly distorted. I have not had any problems and I have shot people like Janet Jackson, ZZtop, Jay Z, Aerosmith and many many other groups over the years.
ullanta
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Re: Shooting Live Bands?
[quote author=DvPixl link=board=audio;num=1089337854;start=0#5 date=07/09/04 at 21:55:06]
but someone mentioned that sound guys mix for the house and not studio... if that's true, do pro's who make concert DVD's have separate mixers going for the concert and DVD? hmm.... sounds expensive.
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Yes, for pro recordings there are always two seperate setups. Sound REINFORCEMENT and sound RECORDING have very different goals and techniques, and rarely if ever will the same setup work well for both.
That said, sometimes a single console can be used to produce a number of mixes for different purposes - monitoring, reinforcement, and recording. However, to the house guy, recording is a low priority and he usually can't dedicate resources - console space and time - to it.
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VXShooter - I'm not talking about distortion; you should be able to get a "clean" feed from a board. But the mix will not be what you want for a recording... fine for news and some promotional use, but not the most enjoyable listening...
[quote author=DvPixl link=board=audio;num=1089337854;start=0#5 date=07/09/04 at 21:55:06]
but someone mentioned that sound guys mix for the house and not studio... if that's true, do pro's who make concert DVD's have separate mixers going for the concert and DVD? hmm.... sounds expensive.
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Yes, for pro recordings there are always two seperate setups. Sound REINFORCEMENT and sound RECORDING have very different goals and techniques, and rarely if ever will the same setup work well for both.
That said, sometimes a single console can be used to produce a number of mixes for different purposes - monitoring, reinforcement, and recording. However, to the house guy, recording is a low priority and he usually can't dedicate resources - console space and time - to it.
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VXShooter - I'm not talking about distortion; you should be able to get a "clean" feed from a board. But the mix will not be what you want for a recording... fine for news and some promotional use, but not the most enjoyable listening...