Shooting In A Hotel Room
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Slapdragon
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Re: Shooting In A Hotel Room
What is your purpose for shooting? You can load down the instruments in the room as practicals with 250 watt 32k photo lamps (making sure they can handle the heat these things generate) but they are not very directional.
Can you tell us more about the scene you are shooting and what mood you are trying to set?
What is your purpose for shooting? You can load down the instruments in the room as practicals with 250 watt 32k photo lamps (making sure they can handle the heat these things generate) but they are not very directional.
Can you tell us more about the scene you are shooting and what mood you are trying to set?
DVX100Shooter
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Are you shooting a sex flick?
Are you shooting a sex flick?
Slapdragon
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[quote author=DVX100Shooter link=board=lighting;num=1088309510;start=0#2 date=06/27/04 at 12:53:33]Are you shooting a sex flick?[/quote]
LOL. I was thinking the same thing. Money shots take some careful lighting...
[quote author=DVX100Shooter link=board=lighting;num=1088309510;start=0#2 date=06/27/04 at 12:53:33]Are you shooting a sex flick?[/quote]
LOL. I was thinking the same thing. Money shots take some careful lighting...
J_Barnes
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Got to be careful about amp loads in hotel rooms, as they don't usually have a lot of separate breakers. As soon as you trip one outlet, nine-times out of ten, you've tripped them all and now you've got to go find the maintenance man and explain exactly why you blew your circuit.
You can try to switch the bulbs to photofloods, but even the 250s get quite hot, so I get nervous about using them in lamps with cheap shades. Kino flos are ideal because of both their light weight and limited draw, but you said you don't have a light kit...
I've never tried any of the "balanced" consumer variety of bulbs, but they might be something to experiment with. Some of them say they emit an even spectrum, but I'd be suspicious of such claims.
If you're going to use your own lighting equipment, check and see if the bathroom has a GFCI outlet. Those are the ones with the two buttons that say "test" and "reset" usually. The GFCI has it's own little minicircuit breaker, and it will usually hold a load of between 15 and 20 amps, but the important part is that if you trip it you can reset it yourself and reduce the load as needed.
Got to be careful about amp loads in hotel rooms, as they don't usually have a lot of separate breakers. As soon as you trip one outlet, nine-times out of ten, you've tripped them all and now you've got to go find the maintenance man and explain exactly why you blew your circuit.
You can try to switch the bulbs to photofloods, but even the 250s get quite hot, so I get nervous about using them in lamps with cheap shades. Kino flos are ideal because of both their light weight and limited draw, but you said you don't have a light kit...
I've never tried any of the "balanced" consumer variety of bulbs, but they might be something to experiment with. Some of them say they emit an even spectrum, but I'd be suspicious of such claims.
If you're going to use your own lighting equipment, check and see if the bathroom has a GFCI outlet. Those are the ones with the two buttons that say "test" and "reset" usually. The GFCI has it's own little minicircuit breaker, and it will usually hold a load of between 15 and 20 amps, but the important part is that if you trip it you can reset it yourself and reduce the load as needed.
Slapdragon
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Re: Shooting In A Hotel Room
Don't trust a GFCI. They normally trip on an open circuit or a circuit to ground rather than an overloaded circuit. By most electrical codes, a GFCI must be backed by a breaker at the panel. A GFCI is designed to break rapidly rather than when on overload.
You should not be shooting in a hotel room unless management knows anyway, so you can get night lights, then test the circuits and do a number chart from them with the house electrician. If you do shoot without management knowledge, since you are using lights, you can be charged with felony reckless endangerment in most jurisdictions (same as if you disable the smoke detectors). It may sound silly, but doing anything like shooting in a hotel room can be seen as endangering other guests, not simply violating your contract for your room. Most hotels will want to see your insurance rider and make sure you wont be doing anything dangerous in the shoot. On the other hand, many hotels wont mind the extra moola for a shoot.
Don't trust a GFCI. They normally trip on an open circuit or a circuit to ground rather than an overloaded circuit. By most electrical codes, a GFCI must be backed by a breaker at the panel. A GFCI is designed to break rapidly rather than when on overload.
You should not be shooting in a hotel room unless management knows anyway, so you can get night lights, then test the circuits and do a number chart from them with the house electrician. If you do shoot without management knowledge, since you are using lights, you can be charged with felony reckless endangerment in most jurisdictions (same as if you disable the smoke detectors). It may sound silly, but doing anything like shooting in a hotel room can be seen as endangering other guests, not simply violating your contract for your room. Most hotels will want to see your insurance rider and make sure you wont be doing anything dangerous in the shoot. On the other hand, many hotels wont mind the extra moola for a shoot.
DVX100Shooter
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speaking of sex flicks, I used to work with a guy that shot them on the side. As for lights, he used 3 Lowell Pro lights. 1 as a Key, another as a soft and the third he would put a gel on it and throw it on the wall...I guess for that "mood" light! LOL! He shot the stuff on BetaSp though. It was done in a hotel room. I know all of this because he would come to work braggin and showing all of the photographers at my station his work! Matters of fact he is the guy that was behind the "Livetruck sex tape"
speaking of sex flicks, I used to work with a guy that shot them on the side. As for lights, he used 3 Lowell Pro lights. 1 as a Key, another as a soft and the third he would put a gel on it and throw it on the wall...I guess for that "mood" light! LOL! He shot the stuff on BetaSp though. It was done in a hotel room. I know all of this because he would come to work braggin and showing all of the photographers at my station his work! Matters of fact he is the guy that was behind the "Livetruck sex tape"
Re: Shooting In A Hotel Room
[quote author=J_Barnes link=board=lighting;num=1088309510;start=0#8 date=06/28/04 at 10:51:15]I wonder if Lowell sells a porn kit?
Three lights and a variety of "mood" gels...I'm sure there's a huge demand with all the internet porn these days.[/quote]
they do and it includes mirror reflectors which you can place on the ceiling...it was used in the movie classic, "clitty clitty bang bang."
[quote author=J_Barnes link=board=lighting;num=1088309510;start=0#8 date=06/28/04 at 10:51:15]I wonder if Lowell sells a porn kit?
Three lights and a variety of "mood" gels...I'm sure there's a huge demand with all the internet porn these days.[/quote]
they do and it includes mirror reflectors which you can place on the ceiling...it was used in the movie classic, "clitty clitty bang bang."
skippyfetus
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Re: Shooting In A Hotel Room
The cool thing about hotel rooms is that you get unlimited free electricity, so crank it up! Whenever I've tried to shoot a convincing hotel footage, I've slightly underexposed and kept the light soft and warm. You should also try to make the light come from the direction of the middle table or the bathroom. That's my suggestion.
The cool thing about hotel rooms is that you get unlimited free electricity, so crank it up! Whenever I've tried to shoot a convincing hotel footage, I've slightly underexposed and kept the light soft and warm. You should also try to make the light come from the direction of the middle table or the bathroom. That's my suggestion.
Speezy
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Re: Shooting In A Hotel Room
Nah guys, sorry to dissapoint you but it's not a porno. I'm just shooting an interview for a documentary. No light sabers or photon cannons either. Actually, the lights in here are pretty good. By the way, is there a certain set up for shooting porn? I'm curious.
Nah guys, sorry to dissapoint you but it's not a porno. I'm just shooting an interview for a documentary. No light sabers or photon cannons either. Actually, the lights in here are pretty good. By the way, is there a certain set up for shooting porn? I'm curious.
Slapdragon
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Re: Shooting In A Hotel Room
[quote author=Speezy link=board=lighting;num=1088309510;start=0#11 date=06/28/04 at 22:25:55]Nah guys, sorry to dissapoint you but it's not a porno. I'm just shooting an interview for a documentary. No light sabers or photon cannons either. Actually, the lights in here are pretty good. By the way, is there a certain set up for shooting porn? I'm curious.[/quote]
That you will have to go over to DVXpornousers.com to ask. Us straights usually don't mix with the sticky keyboard set.
[quote author=Speezy link=board=lighting;num=1088309510;start=0#11 date=06/28/04 at 22:25:55]Nah guys, sorry to dissapoint you but it's not a porno. I'm just shooting an interview for a documentary. No light sabers or photon cannons either. Actually, the lights in here are pretty good. By the way, is there a certain set up for shooting porn? I'm curious.[/quote]
That you will have to go over to DVXpornousers.com to ask. Us straights usually don't mix with the sticky keyboard set.
J_Barnes
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Re: Shooting In A Hotel Room
I find when shooting porn that a reverse key should never be used, and ratios should be kept as close as possible...ideally 1.5:1. You don't want anything falling into shadow because guys get easily confused.
Sometimes I add a kicker, level with the bed or love-swing, to add a little highlight definition, but never at the expense of adding shadow. Even a carefully placed pinspot will help to clarify the spatial relationships and reduce the intellectual involvement of the viewer.
Finally, you'll have to experiment with the "finishing shot" to find the right angle and shutter speed to capture all the action. Ideally, you want a professional actor who will be able to do multiple retakes until you get one that both matches the previous shot and successfully captures the action. As they say, continuity is a *****!
Also, if you're going to be getting into these shoots seriously, it might be advantageous to invest in one of those underwater housings, or perhaps just a quality rain housing for your camera...preferably something that can withstand the high temperatures of an autoclave.
Good luck, and wear goggles!
I find when shooting porn that a reverse key should never be used, and ratios should be kept as close as possible...ideally 1.5:1. You don't want anything falling into shadow because guys get easily confused.
Sometimes I add a kicker, level with the bed or love-swing, to add a little highlight definition, but never at the expense of adding shadow. Even a carefully placed pinspot will help to clarify the spatial relationships and reduce the intellectual involvement of the viewer.
Finally, you'll have to experiment with the "finishing shot" to find the right angle and shutter speed to capture all the action. Ideally, you want a professional actor who will be able to do multiple retakes until you get one that both matches the previous shot and successfully captures the action. As they say, continuity is a *****!
Also, if you're going to be getting into these shoots seriously, it might be advantageous to invest in one of those underwater housings, or perhaps just a quality rain housing for your camera...preferably something that can withstand the high temperatures of an autoclave.
Good luck, and wear goggles!
Slapdragon
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Re: Shooting In A Hotel Room
[quote author=J_Barnes link=board=lighting;num=1088309510;start=0#13 date=06/29/04 at 08:26:42]I find when shooting porn that a reverse key should never be used, and ratios should be kept as close as possible...ideally 1.5:1. You don't want anything falling into shadow because guys get easily confused.
Sometimes I add a kicker, level with the bed or love-swing, to add a little highlight definition, but never at the expense of adding shadow. Even a carefully placed pinspot will help to clarify the spatial relationships and reduce the intellectual involvement of the viewer.
Finally, you'll have to experiment with the "finishing shot" to find the right angle and shutter speed to capture all the action. Ideally, you want a professional actor who will be able to do multiple retakes until you get one that both matches the previous shot and successfully captures the action. As they say, continuity is a *****!
Also, if you're going to be getting into these shoots seriously, it might be advantageous to invest in one of those underwater housings, or perhaps just a quality rain housing for your camera...preferably something that can withstand the high temperatures of an autoclave.
Good luck, and wear goggles!
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If you notice any turtles on set, it always pays to have them use a butt plug, especially if you plan on doing any french angles yourself. In this case I would make sure my grip has a monkey's knuckle for the action.
[quote author=J_Barnes link=board=lighting;num=1088309510;start=0#13 date=06/29/04 at 08:26:42]I find when shooting porn that a reverse key should never be used, and ratios should be kept as close as possible...ideally 1.5:1. You don't want anything falling into shadow because guys get easily confused.
Sometimes I add a kicker, level with the bed or love-swing, to add a little highlight definition, but never at the expense of adding shadow. Even a carefully placed pinspot will help to clarify the spatial relationships and reduce the intellectual involvement of the viewer.
Finally, you'll have to experiment with the "finishing shot" to find the right angle and shutter speed to capture all the action. Ideally, you want a professional actor who will be able to do multiple retakes until you get one that both matches the previous shot and successfully captures the action. As they say, continuity is a *****!
Also, if you're going to be getting into these shoots seriously, it might be advantageous to invest in one of those underwater housings, or perhaps just a quality rain housing for your camera...preferably something that can withstand the high temperatures of an autoclave.
Good luck, and wear goggles!
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If you notice any turtles on set, it always pays to have them use a butt plug, especially if you plan on doing any french angles yourself. In this case I would make sure my grip has a monkey's knuckle for the action.
J_Barnes
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Re: Shooting In A Hotel Room
[quote author=Slapdragon link=board=lighting;num=1088309510;start=0#14 date=06/29/04 at 09:17:22]
If you notice any turtles on set, it always pays to have them use a butt plug, especially if you plan on doing any french angles yourself. In this case I would make sure my grip has a monkey's knuckle for the action.[/quote]
I noticed that it's sometimes hard to get a good grip with a buttplug.
But I do know that if you have trouble with lady being too hot, you can always use a magic finger to control the heat. Although with the older ladies, sometimes they demand help to prop up their pancakes.
I once saw a guy mount a redhead and two blondes, all at the same time, just because he had a trombone. But I don't really like my sets getting to wild, if a guy even shows up with a duckbill holder, he's out the door.
I'm really trying to work my way into more professional shoots, but if anyone needs extra help, I might consider it.
I'd like to think that I'm still quite good with my meataxe.
[quote author=Slapdragon link=board=lighting;num=1088309510;start=0#14 date=06/29/04 at 09:17:22]
If you notice any turtles on set, it always pays to have them use a butt plug, especially if you plan on doing any french angles yourself. In this case I would make sure my grip has a monkey's knuckle for the action.[/quote]
I noticed that it's sometimes hard to get a good grip with a buttplug.
But I do know that if you have trouble with lady being too hot, you can always use a magic finger to control the heat. Although with the older ladies, sometimes they demand help to prop up their pancakes.
I once saw a guy mount a redhead and two blondes, all at the same time, just because he had a trombone. But I don't really like my sets getting to wild, if a guy even shows up with a duckbill holder, he's out the door.
I'm really trying to work my way into more professional shoots, but if anyone needs extra help, I might consider it.
I'd like to think that I'm still quite good with my meataxe.
Slapdragon
Well-known member
Re: Shooting In A Hotel Room
[quote author=J_Barnes link=board=lighting;num=1088309510;start=15#17 date=06/29/04 at 11:08:41]I once saw a guy mount a redhead and two blondes, all at the same time, just because he had a trombone. But I don't really like my sets getting to wild, if a guy even shows up with a duckbill holder, he's out the door. [/quote]
I think you are trying to give me the high hat on this, when I know that you are really a low boy. Still, I like to shoot on a dolly as much as the next guy. The problem is my jib always gets caught when I try to tounge it.
[quote author=J_Barnes link=board=lighting;num=1088309510;start=15#17 date=06/29/04 at 11:08:41]I once saw a guy mount a redhead and two blondes, all at the same time, just because he had a trombone. But I don't really like my sets getting to wild, if a guy even shows up with a duckbill holder, he's out the door. [/quote]
I think you are trying to give me the high hat on this, when I know that you are really a low boy. Still, I like to shoot on a dolly as much as the next guy. The problem is my jib always gets caught when I try to tounge it.
Slapdragon
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Re: Shooting In A Hotel Room
[quote author=iamloser link=board=lighting;num=1088309510;start=15#16 date=06/29/04 at 10:13:20]..what about the stingers?![/quote]
You cannot use a stinger with a butt plug. They are the wrong sex.
[quote author=iamloser link=board=lighting;num=1088309510;start=15#16 date=06/29/04 at 10:13:20]..what about the stingers?![/quote]
You cannot use a stinger with a butt plug. They are the wrong sex.