Shooting in 24p, editing in 30p, easiest workflow?

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mr_goodbomb

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I can't seem to find an article on this that isn't years and years old. I'm shooting on a DVX100A, using FCP 5.0.4. I'm shooting commercials for a company, getting paid fairly small amounts to go shoot the video, get dozens of quick, tiny little cut-to shots and a few interviews and testimonials, and cut it together myself. It really isn't worth it to sit and log every single tiny shot off the camera individually for the amount I'm making, or struggle with interlacing issues. If it's going to be a huge pain, I'll shoot 30p, because I'm just not getting paid much, but I want it to look good because I'll be getting ingoing work, and this time of year sucks for freelance. So, what should I be doing to use 24p footage in a 30p timeline (yes, they specifically want 30p output, but said a lot of their shooters shoot 24p native).

I assume 29.97fps will do, as well. Just trying to find a workaround, as they said most of their guys shoot 24p but return 30p finished files.
 
If they want 30P, then you should shoot 30P. Shooting 24P and delivering at 30P is not going to look as good. There will be motion artifacts in the new frames created to go from 24 to 30.

mr_goodbomb said:
I'm shooting commercials for a company, getting paid fairly small amounts to go shoot the video, get dozens of quick, tiny little cut-to shots and a few interviews and testimonials, and cut it together myself. It really isn't worth it to sit and log every single tiny shot off the camera individually for the amount I'm making, or struggle with interlacing issues.
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If they're not paying you enough, then turn the job down and find one that pays better. You won't help yourself in the long run by accepting low pay & delivering substandard work.
 
Actually it would not be a big deal- 24p standard this is 24 frames plus 3:2 pulldown gives you 29.97 which sits in a 30p timeline nicely. But it will not be true 30p. I'd suggest shooting a test. See if they truly want 30p shot and edited or they are saying 30p but really meaning 29.97/60i which is what it will actually be.

Noah
 
They did say absolutely no 60p. I dunno if they actually meant 60i, as 60p to me means "slow mo" as per the HVX. I should ask. How would I remove pulldown? And would I have to capture each clip individually, remove pulldown manually on each as I import, etc? Because that's hardly worth the time.

As for taking low-paying jobs, I have to get by. I either take crappy work or nothing at all at this point. If I turned down unpleasant work on principal, I'd be homeless.
 
No one said anything about 60p. 30p and 60i are both capable of living at 29.97 on a TV. 60p is 60fps/59.94 fps and is something reserved for HD footage. 24p in standard definition can exist either as native 24 frames per second or 24 frames + 3:2 pulldown to be happy at 29.97/60i. Like I said- shoot some test footage, send them a tape. And you'll likely be fine, don't shoot yourself in the foot overthinking things.

Noah
 
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