Settings for perfect Blu-Ray - Help Needed

depasan

depasan

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My footage is .m2ts format. When I use Sony Vegas 9 to convert the .m2ts to Sony AVC with the template Blu-Ray 1920x1080-60i 16MBs video stream I loose the audio (it only converts video). If I attempt to go to Custom and try to check audio the box is grayed out and I can't click it. If I go in the tab System and change the format from AVC to Format MPEG-2 transport stream (.m2ts) then the audio box is clickable (I mean it works).
If I render everything under template AVCHD 1920x1080-60i I get one file with both video and audio. The problem is that when I try to burn a blue-ray in DVD Architect 5, DVD Architect finishes rendering and then at the end I get an error:
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I have a Blu-Ray writer and I don't know what I am doing wrong. This is really frustrating and I really need help my friends.
I would really appreciate if someone will take the time and explain step by step the best Render settings in Sony Vegas 9 to have a perfect quality Blu-Ray?

Thank you very much
 
I've had the same issue with DVD architect. The issue is not with your render but rather with DVD architect. Their seems to be an issue that if your project is longer then 1hour then you get that error.

The best way to get around this for now is to burn the Bluray disc within Vegas itself.

Tools>Burn disc>Bluray disc...
You can go through the settings and pick the best options for your project, then you can either get vegas to prepare and burn or just prepare the image so that you can burn the image from Nero etc.

Please keep in mind that at the moment only a handful of set top players are able to play bluray discs that are prepared from prosumers apps, this includes Encore, Ulead, DVD architect etc.

Let me know how you are going to burn your disc, there may be a few more settings to keep in mind.
 
earthcubed said:
I've had the same issue with DVD architect. The issue is not with your render but rather with DVD architect. Their seems to be an issue that if your project is longer then 1hour then you get that error.

The best way to get around this for now is to burn the Bluray disc within Vegas itself.

Tools>Burn disc>Bluray disc...
You can go through the settings and pick the best options for your project, then you can either get vegas to prepare and burn or just prepare the image so that you can burn the image from Nero etc.

Please keep in mind that at the moment only a handful of set top players are able to play bluray discs that are prepared from prosumers apps, this includes Encore, Ulead, DVD architect etc.

Let me know how you are going to burn your disc, there may be a few more settings to keep in mind.
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This whole thing is turning to be a nightmare. My video is 58 minutes and I am afraid to try it because if I screw it up then the blu-ray disk is gone. If I burn it through Vegas then I am not going to have the wonderful menus that Architect has and that sucks. My question is: If I burn it with Vegas will it play in my Samsung Blu-Ray player? What are those handful set top players if you have a list? There is got to be a way around this because this is insane, and it is not cheap to try if you want to do testing ans staff
Thank you very much for your reply earthcubet, I'll give it a shot
 
I'm afraid I don't have a list of players that will play the discs.
The best advice I could give would be to get a Rewritable Bluray disc and try it on your player first.

I have stopped using DVD architect for anything Bluray, I have instead moved over to an app by Netblender (Dostudio). You will have a steep learning curve to build your menu system etc, but I can say that I have been able to play the Blurays on all the set top players I have access to. From cheap LG and Samsung players to high end Denon, Onkyo and Marantz units.

Here are the settings I use to render my AVC files (see jpeg).
Make sure that you choose System> Video elementary Stream (.avc), also render your audio out as Dolby Digital AC-3 Pro.

Sorry I can't be more help with the DVD architect issue, lets hope Sony gets there act together soon on this one.

 

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depasan said:
My footage is .m2ts format. When I use Sony Vegas 9 to convert the .m2ts to Sony AVC with the template Blu-Ray 1920x1080-60i 16MBs video stream I loose the audio (it only converts video). If I attempt to go to Custom and try to check audio the box is grayed out and I can't click it. If I go in the tab System and change the format from AVC to Format MPEG-2 transport stream (.m2ts) then the audio box is clickable (I mean it works).
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It's grayed out because you are not supposed to compress the audio with the same codec as the video. Just like burning DVDs. Burn the audio separately with the correct codec (AC3 or WAV) and your problem will be solved.

depasan said:
If I render everything under template AVCHD 1920x1080-60i I get one file with both video and audio. The problem is that when I try to burn a blue-ray in DVD Architect 5, DVD Architect finishes rendering and then at the end I get an error:
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Yes, because your audio is an illegal type for BluRay, but not for the AVCHD spec in general. Just like DVDs.

depasan said:
I would really appreciate if someone will take the time and explain step by step the best Render settings in Sony Vegas 9 to have a perfect quality Blu-Ray?
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Done.
 
depasan said:
This whole thing is turning to be a nightmare. My video is 58 minutes and I am afraid to try it because if I screw it up then the blu-ray disk is gone.

Burn the file to an .iso image. It's exactly the same as burning to a disc. If it's not successful, you can simply delete the file. If it's successful, then you can re-burn to the BluRay and save the .iso as a "disc backup". I don't generally burn my BluRay's from inside DVDA, I use the tools I got with the BluRay player (Roxio). If you have those tools, it will read the .iso file and you simply use the utility to maek a "copy" using the .iso as a source, and the BluRay as a destination.
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depasan said:
If I burn it through Vegas then I am not going to have the wonderful menus that Architect has and that sucks. My question is: If I burn it with Vegas will it play in my Samsung Blu-Ray player? What are those handful set top players if you have a list? There is got to be a way around this
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You don't need a way around it. You need to understand how to use the tools you already own. You can produce fine BluRays with your current tools.
 
The good news is that I rendered and burned the Blu-Ray sucessuflly directly from Vegas with these settings:
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The bad news is that video freezes and I can only hear the audio when I play. Also in parts the video plays but the quality is really, really bad, then it freezes and if I FF>> it starts playing again with a very bad quality. I tried playing the disk in two different Blu-Ray players and the result is the same.
How do I render video and audio separately? I need an easy to understand guide on how to achieve this.
I really appreciate all your help so far
Thanks
 
Use the Video render settings that I showed you in the attached JPEG. change the frame rate if needed and the data rate down to 15,000,000.
Once that render is finished make sure you use the same selection and render out your audio as Dolby digital Pro ( AC-3 ), use the standard stereo DVD setting that is provided but change the data rate to 640 (as per the attached pic), make sure that the audio is named exactly the same as the video.avc file, all that must be different is the extension (.ac3).

Then when you bring in the video into DVD architect it will automatically add the audio file. I'm not sure if you will still get the same Video buffer underflows error though.

Let me know if it works.
 

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Making progress finally. I managed to get the right bitrates for video and audio thanks to Earthcubed advice. When I import to DVD Architect 5.0 I get the error again:
File name: STREAM/00001.m2ts
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Here is the screenshot from the Optimize Disk Window

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I have no idea what I am doing wrong now. What it looks like is that the Menu's bitrate is out of order. How can I possibly fix that?
 
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Anybody has a suggestion or solution to my problem? I am totally stuck right now. I have the project prepared and I can't burn it.
 
Ian Slessor said:
Um, did you follow Perrone's advice from earlier in this thread?


sincerely,


ian
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I did and if you take a look at my screenshot I am stuck on DVD architect preparing it. It shows both video and audio are ok and then it still fails. I don't know what I am doing wrong.
 
I am really sorry to bump this topic but I am really stuck on this one. I don't know why DVD Architect 5.0 is not preparing the project. Both video and audio stream seem to be OK (take a look at my last screenshot).
Here is the rundown again: I have rendered the video using the Blu-Ray template 1920x1080:60i and the Audio separately using the same file name with AC-3 Pro. I import them to DVD Architect, put the blu-ray disk in the drive and DVD Architect gets stuck on rendering, it doesn't even go to burning.
 
I noticed that it is giving warnings on the menu. Don't know if that's ok or not. Also notice that the video is 24.000. I don't if that is a valid framrate for BluRay. 23.976 is, and so is 29.97.

Also, you said you did your audio with AC-3 Pro. I've never been able to do that. I had to use AC-3 Studio. Maybe you have something I don't.
 
PerroneFord said:
I noticed that it is giving warnings on the menu. Don't know if that's ok or not. Also notice that the video is 24.000. I don't if that is a valid framrate for BluRay. 23.976 is, and so is 29.97.

Also, you said you did your audio with AC-3 Pro. I've never been able to do that. I had to use AC-3 Studio. Maybe you have something I don't.
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When I render in Vegas I do choose 24.000 (Film) but for some reason DVD Architect looks at it like 23.976. I tried both plugins AC-3 Pro and AC-3 Studio and the result is the same
 
Are you shooting Film? As in Kodak film with an Arri or Aaton? If not, you do NOT need to be rendering 24.00. You need to be editing and rendering with 23.976 or 29.97 depending on how you have your camera set to record.

I use AC-3 Studio because the pro version locks me out. Again, maybe you own some codec I don't. But something tells me that you're shooting yourself in the foot with that true 24p encoding.
 
PerroneFord said:
Are you shooting Film? As in Kodak film with an Arri or Aaton? If not, you do NOT need to be rendering 24.00. You need to be editing and rendering with 23.976 or 29.97 depending on how you have your camera set to record.

I use AC-3 Studio because the pro version locks me out. Again, maybe you own some codec I don't. But something tells me that you're shooting yourself in the foot with that true 24p encoding.
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Thank you so much my friend. You gave me the most valuable lesson. You told me to check the video source and that's what I did. I was messing around with the original settings and that was the reason why it wasn't working, plus I was loosing quality without realizing. I analyzed the source and I used exactly the same settings as the source to render to blu-ray and it worked. It doesn't re-render again in Architect, just burns the disk because Vegas has already done all the hard work. Let me tell you my friends: I got the most beautiful Blu-Ray project ever. The quality is AMAZING.....
I just want to take the time to thank everybody in this thread for helping me out on this problem. Just in case anyone wonders about the settings I used to make this work:

For Video:

Video Format AVC
Frame size: High Definition (1920x1080)
Frame rate 29.970 (NTSC)
Pixel aspect ratio: 1.0000
Bit rate (bps): 12.000.000


For the audio template:
AC3-Pro
Form the template 5.1 Surround DVD
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