Seriously amazing
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Daniel_Runyon
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Re: Seriously amazing
Yessir...thats made its rounds a couple of times here, and it does appear to be another "savior"...if they ever get to selling the thing. Much like the "Juan" mod, let me know when its ready for prime time!
Yessir...thats made its rounds a couple of times here, and it does appear to be another "savior"...if they ever get to selling the thing. Much like the "Juan" mod, let me know when its ready for prime time!
pookie_old
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Re: Seriously amazing
I'm a little behind on things.....
I'm a little behind on things.....
BLUESPIDER
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Re: Seriously amazing
[quote author=pookie link=board=Offtopic;num=1108792175;start=0#2 date=02/18/05 at 22:57:24]I'm a little behind on things.....[/quote]
yeah pookie, you're so analog.
[quote author=pookie link=board=Offtopic;num=1108792175;start=0#2 date=02/18/05 at 22:57:24]I'm a little behind on things.....
[/quote]yeah pookie, you're so analog.
Re: Seriously amazing
1080p would be nice. The form factor is very A-Minima / Aaton / Scoopic (remember those!). So, did anyone actually see this thing? Is it for real - or is this a mock-up pipe dream?
The only thing I can think of is that an LCD? color viewfinder seems like a very lame idea. Motion picture guys want reflex viewing in color with markings, video shooters - especially handheld guys - are accustomed to b&w viewfinders.
Uh, on the matter of hand cranking... didn't the technical filmmaking community spend the last century trying to find a path away from hand-cranking (e.g., crystal motors, intervalometers) why would we go back? Is this a gimmicky thing for use in music videos expressly? I mean, just because he figured out how to do it doesn't mean there is a practical need against the pricepoint - think Segway.
I've seen lots of cool rigs like Panavisions VistaVision 16mm camera that never went beyond half-hatched prototypes.
Sounds cool, looks cool - I'd love to see it working in person.
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1080p would be nice. The form factor is very A-Minima / Aaton / Scoopic (remember those!). So, did anyone actually see this thing? Is it for real - or is this a mock-up pipe dream?
The only thing I can think of is that an LCD? color viewfinder seems like a very lame idea. Motion picture guys want reflex viewing in color with markings, video shooters - especially handheld guys - are accustomed to b&w viewfinders.
Uh, on the matter of hand cranking... didn't the technical filmmaking community spend the last century trying to find a path away from hand-cranking (e.g., crystal motors, intervalometers) why would we go back? Is this a gimmicky thing for use in music videos expressly? I mean, just because he figured out how to do it doesn't mean there is a practical need against the pricepoint - think Segway.
I've seen lots of cool rigs like Panavisions VistaVision 16mm camera that never went beyond half-hatched prototypes.
Sounds cool, looks cool - I'd love to see it working in person.
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Daniel_Runyon
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Re: Seriously amazing
I really like the idea of it being handcrankable (which he says is an option, not the standard way of working) because not only would it lend itself to maximum creative flexability, but it would add to a certain "feel" while shooting that help you feel connected with the essense of the old school pioneer filmmakers, perhaps Griffith or Chaplin. Hard to describe what I mean here, but if you get what Im saying then youll get what Im saying. That site has been relatively static for some time though, so I wonder if hes hit a brick wall or what. And he dont say anything about it being cheap!
I really like the idea of it being handcrankable (which he says is an option, not the standard way of working) because not only would it lend itself to maximum creative flexability, but it would add to a certain "feel" while shooting that help you feel connected with the essense of the old school pioneer filmmakers, perhaps Griffith or Chaplin. Hard to describe what I mean here, but if you get what Im saying then youll get what Im saying. That site has been relatively static for some time though, so I wonder if hes hit a brick wall or what. And he dont say anything about it being cheap!
ChuckS
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Re: Seriously amazing
This is a cool concept. I think they are waiting for the CMOS imaging technology they have chosen to use to become prime time. I also believe that JVC has a camera that uses, and is therefore waiting for the same chips.
I would imagine as soon as these chips become readily available we might see more cameras like this. The Arri D20 is already out - but it uses a different imager. As far as price goes cameras like this would probably sell for more than $60K.
This is a cool concept. I think they are waiting for the CMOS imaging technology they have chosen to use to become prime time. I also believe that JVC has a camera that uses, and is therefore waiting for the same chips.
I would imagine as soon as these chips become readily available we might see more cameras like this. The Arri D20 is already out - but it uses a different imager. As far as price goes cameras like this would probably sell for more than $60K.
Re: Seriously amazing
The trick is not that they need to convince us, it is the rental houses that need to be convinced. Very few features use DP-owner-operator packages to lens their films, so few owner-ops will have $60k - $150k rigs. Unless this concept is underwritten or licensed by a major mfg., it is incredibly unlikely that it'll see the light of day.
There are few Panavisions (actually just one) in the business who can make their product and control the supply line exclusively.
Other players like Sony are becoming really insistent that all SPE shows lens with their HDCinema heads, so I suppose they also have a measure of control - until the networks ax their programming anyway!
Everyone else is in a market segment where rental houses decide if MovieCam or Arri or Aaton or CineAlta or Viper or LDK WorldCam or whatever will be the brand they push.
Anyway, I'd love to see this camera in-person, or at least some hand-cranked footage before something big and corporate happens to it.
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The trick is not that they need to convince us, it is the rental houses that need to be convinced. Very few features use DP-owner-operator packages to lens their films, so few owner-ops will have $60k - $150k rigs. Unless this concept is underwritten or licensed by a major mfg., it is incredibly unlikely that it'll see the light of day.
There are few Panavisions (actually just one) in the business who can make their product and control the supply line exclusively.
Other players like Sony are becoming really insistent that all SPE shows lens with their HDCinema heads, so I suppose they also have a measure of control - until the networks ax their programming anyway!
Everyone else is in a market segment where rental houses decide if MovieCam or Arri or Aaton or CineAlta or Viper or LDK WorldCam or whatever will be the brand they push.
Anyway, I'd love to see this camera in-person, or at least some hand-cranked footage before something big and corporate happens to it.
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