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cineliterate

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Could someone give me a really quick breakdown of how to create a shot in which the same actor plays two characters. I had the actor stand in the correct place and his eye line is good in each shot, but when I split the frame, Premiere makes me adjust the opacity to see both takes of the actor when the clip is stacked; and it looks too dim. Help!

-Ian
 
I started to type a long arse response describing how to do this, but I have been asked this question so many times I think I will just put together a quick tutorial (much easier than writing it out). Give me some time and I will see what I can put together.

I thought there was a tutorial at the below site, but I couldn't find it. Anyway, for now... check out the clips.

http://ryanw.michaelfrisk.com/ryan-w/cloning.html

This is a great effect and can be used for much more than just cloning. I used this effect for the bat hit at the very end of Cache as well.

I will try to get something done in the next few days.
 
It's kind of an emergency. The shot doesn't move at all. It's literally split down the middle. I just need to know how to get the desired effect without adjusting the transparency.

-Ian
 
This would be easier in After Effects, but if you have to use Premiere, you could stack the two clips one on top of the other, and apply a wipe transition to the top clip. Just set the parameters to start at 50% and end at 50%. This way the wipe won't move and will stay split for the duration of the transition. Just a thought.

-Kevin
 
I think I figured it out. Thanks guys! The only thing that would help in addition to this is a how to feather the line created between the two images. I have no idea where to begin.

-Ian
 
Snodart, I would really appreciate you doing a tutorial of this cloning method in after effects. I think your clips are very cool.


Cheers
Steve
 
The quickest tool in premiere is under effects and transform called crop. The only feathering tool in premiere is limited to only feathering the entire clip and not along the cropped edge. I assume you want to feather the edge since the light is a little different from one to the other? You are wanting to hide the line better?

After effects would be the easiest.
 
snodart said:
I started to type a long arse response describing how to do this, but I have been asked this question so many times I think I will just put together a quick tutorial (much easier than writing it out). Give me some time and I will see what I can put together.

I thought there was a tutorial at the below site, but I couldn't find it. Anyway, for now... check out the clips.

http://ryanw.michaelfrisk.com/ryan-w/cloning.html

This is a great effect and can be used for much more than just cloning. I used this effect for the bat hit at the very end of Cache as well.

I will try to get something done in the next few days.
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Hi!

Please provide us the tutorial! :-)
 
Kevin Briggs said:
The quickest tool in premiere is under effects and transform called crop. The only feathering tool in premiere is limited to only feathering the entire clip and not along the cropped edge. I assume you want to feather the edge since the light is a little different from one to the other? You are wanting to hide the line better?

After effects would be the easiest.
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What about in FCP?
 
Can't you just take the clips and put a matte on the sides you don't want, then stack on top of each other in the timeline? That's seems the most logical way to me. Also, I'm not too familiar with FCP blending modes, but something in there may help, probably not, but the matte solution should work just fine.
 
oneinfiniteloop said:
Can't you just take the clips and put a matte on the sides you don't want, then stack on top of each other in the timeline? That's seems the most logical way to me. Also, I'm not too familiar with FCP blending modes, but something in there may help, probably not, but the matte solution should work just fine.
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Yeah you can use mattes but by using the crop tool it's just a one step process since the the information that is cropped out is transparent. All you have to do is crop out the top clip and line up the clip below and your done.

With anything more than a split screen you would have to use mattes. Premiere has garbage mattes, but you are limited to 16 points. I have never used FCP so I don't know what option it has.
 
Schmovies production said:
This great performance is delivered by the same fantastic actor and it was made with a simple animated mask in after effects.

www.schmovies.com/Films/The_Drink.mov
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The one thing that made this better than most I have seen is the moving background with the trees instead of a static background. You must have done a frame by frame mask tightly around one of the two instances(actors). I can't imagine you were able to sync up the leaves blowing:)
 
Kevin Briggs said:
The one thing that made this better than most I have seen is the moving background with the trees instead of a static background. You must have done a frame by frame mask tightly around one of the two instances(actors). I can't imagine you were able to sync up the leaves blowing:)
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There is a tutorial about mask instances on scenes with moving background?
 
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