Rode PinMic + Zoom H1

Shantel.Kruger

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Hi all,

Just bought a Rode PinMic (with the Micon2) to be used with my Zoom H1 but when I plug the pinmic into the H1 it doesn't work. I had read that the H1 would provide power to the mic... so don't know what I am doing wrong. I would really appreciate any suggestion since I am going to use it for a doc which I have to start in a few days.

Thanks a lot.
Shantel
 
Can you try the mic with some other piece of equipment (like your camcorder, etc?)
Can you try the recorder with some other mic (like for your computer, etc.?)

Alas, Rode provides only the least useful "specs" on their website, so there is no detailed technical information about exactly how that Micon2 is wired. Sigh.....

RANT: What is it with these companies? Have the clueless marketing gerbs wrested control of the information flow from the actual engineers who know what they are talking about? Consider the "Specs" page for the Micon2:
http://www.rodemic.com/accessories/micon-2
The only "specs" they list are the weight and the dimensions. I can't think of any more useless specs than those. And we, the current and potential end-users are apparently deemed to stupid to handle the actual specs like the pinout, signal levels, power specs, etc. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

But we have 75 words and a big color photo of some kid who makes YouTube videos saying "I have used them throughout my whole career." Is that a joke?
 
A look at the B&H listing for this mike seems to indicate 48V phantom power needed. I have a Zoom H1; as far as I know, it doesn't supply any power whatsoever (not 1V, 24V, or 48).

This could be the problem...

GJ
 
Don´t know if this is any help, but I have the Rode lavalier (same capsule as the pin) and use a Micon5 (XLR) adapter to feed it to my mixer or camera (both with 48V phantom) - so yeah, it definitive needs power.

And here comes the bad news: The H1 doesn`t provide phantom power.

Frank
 
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Richard-- As far as I know, "plug-in power" is 1 or 2 volt micro-power for something like a Sony stereo video mike. Definitely not 48v or 24v phantom. If the pinmic needs phantom, the H1 ain't gonna make it happen.GJ
 
Go back and read the Rode and Zoom information more carefully. It is only the Micon5 that runs on P48 phantom power.
All the other Micon connectors operate on the low voltage that the mic capsule actually take.

In the specific case of the Zoom H1 and the Micon2, the low-voltage "plug-in power" is apparently an operational match.
Or didn't you watch the video that "postmaster" cited? You can't argue with actual proof.

As to why Shantel.Kruger is having trouble with his particular combination, we won't know anything further until he comes back here after conducing some differential diagnosis.

Electret microphone capsules take no power to operate, but the impedance conversion circuit (typically just a single FET transistor) takes a few volts (i.e. "plug-in power"). The Micon5 adapter knocks the 48V phantom power down to the few volts it takes to operate the mic capsule. The other Micon adapter connectors all use lower voltages (typically what is available from wireless transmitters).
 
I am using the PinMic with Zoom H2. I need to go to the menu to set "Plug In" mic power to ON to have it work with PinMic.
 
Thanks to everyone for yr replies! I tried the pinmic on my Canon 5d and doesn't work either. I think the 5D does provide plug in power, so it should work... So, I guess it must be a problem of the pinmic or the micon2. Any other ideas are appreciated.
 
It's most likely the Micon 2. We've seen a few come back defective. Contact RODE or the dealer where the unit was purchased and I'm sure they'll more than happy to help your replace it.
 
Watched video. Standing corrected.

I just assumed that I would have to use dynamic lavs with the H1. Coolio that there's more available than that.

GJ
 
Im having this same problem and this is the only thread online I found. Propably not checking this thread anymore but does anyone know what was the probelm? Micon2?
 
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