Rode NTG-1 , NTG-2

whatever device (camera, mixer, external recorder) is what will provide the phantom power. Most pro/prosumer cameras provide this. The NTG-2 has a battery power option in the case that you dont have phantom power from the source. Generally speaking you'll always want to have phantom power over battery power for a cleaner signal and perhaps some other reasons I'm not aware of.
 
I'm also in a big doubt but why shotgun mics I don't like the shotgun sounds it has no emotion.
Compare this with the Rode NT!-A and you hear de difference much more clear natural sound.
You can find some examples in youtube
 
cane said:
I'm also in a big doubt but why shotgun mics I don't like the shotgun sounds it has no emotion.
Compare this with the Rode NT!-A and you hear de difference much more clear natural sound.
You can find some examples in youtube
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Depends on what you're recording. I'd hate to have my arms extended over my head for 5 minutes holding an NT1a out on the end of a 12 foot boom over the heads of 2 actors shooting dialog. It would also sound pretty crappy used in that situation since it needs to be within about 12 inches of the speaker's mouth to get that intimate, clear, quality and its cardioid pattern is going to pick up a lot of the room reverb. It's a good V/O and vocalist studio mic - I have one - but I wouldn't dream of it using as the mic of choice for location dialog recording. Put an NTG-1 out on the end of that same boom and you'll be getting much better results.

I think when you say the 'shotgun sound' has 'no emotion' you're thinking of what it sounds like when used on-camera any number of feet away from the subject, something far too many people do. A short 'gun still needs to be within about 24 inches of the subject to sound right. Other than recording ambience or for run-and-gun newsgathering where sound quality is secondary to getting the story, on the camera is virtually NEVER the right place for a mic to be to capture decent sound.
 
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cane said:
Thank you Steve
I got the same thoughts about boom issue but the NTG 1 or 2 still not have a film sound what I have in mine imation.
Maby you have more better examples i will be glad to compare with the other microphone's
Here is btw an new Rode mic M3 it sounds very good it looks like that this mic is a allround one.
http://www.rodemic.com/?pagename=Home (just click on m3)
http://www.rodemic.com/?pagename=Products&product=M3
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For "film sound," ie, the sound you associate with mainstream theatrical film releases, you need to move up from the NTG-x price range quite a bit no matter what mic you get. Arguably the 'go-to' boom mic for theatrical production is the Schoeps CMC641 hypercardioid - but it's also 5 times the price of the Rode mics. For a 'gun, Sennheiser MKH 416 or MKH 60 or Sanken CS3 but again when you move to that range you're into a whole different class of gear. Gotta compare apples to apples. But my main point still remains - the deficiencies you ascribe to the shotgun mic in general are most likely due to their frequent misuse rather than anything about the nature of the mics themselves. Far too many users think of them as the acoustic equivalent of a telephoto lens, pulling distant sounds closer, when in fact they just don't work that way. That coupled with the tone colouration when used indoors means they're frequently a disaster when in the wrong hands. And an NTG-1 in the right place is going to beat the sound of a Schoeps 641 in the wrong place hands down.

For a general purpose boom mic in the sub-kilobuck range take a look at the AudioTechnica AT4053a or the AKG Blueline SE300/CK93 hypercardioids.
 
Hey thanks for all the replies,

Thanks JdaJda, Does this suck up a lot of power, It will be used on a DVX100a ?

Steve House I looked into the Audio Technica AT4053a, and also the sennheiser ME66, but I was reading a lot about the Rode NTG-1 and a lot of people said that the NTG-1 is a better mic and its a cheaper price,

I'm going to be filming a documentary mostly outdoors and surely some indoors, I don't have a big budget, I do want decent sound, but I can't afford $1k mics, on top of that price there are additional prices for things like a shock mount and a windscreen, and I read the best bang for the buck is the Rode NTG-1, the NTG-1 with a shock mount and a windscreen is only about $350,

Although sound is very important to me, I am wondering if it will be a waist of $350? Is the NTG-1 a good mic? I do have a boom pole and from reading what you guys say here I think that I will want to have the mic out on that pole, but will i still get good quality audio with this microphone?

Cane thats a nice mic, but I don't think a studio microphone will work for filming a documentary, It is going to be alot of handheld , no time to set up filming.
 
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Steve House I looked into the Audio Technica AT4053a, and also the sennheiser ME66, but I was reading a lot about the Rode NTG-1 and a lot of people said that the NTG-1 is a better mic and its a cheaper price,

I'm going to be filming a documentary mostly outdoors and surely some indoors, I don't have a big budget, I do want decent sound, but I can't afford $1k mics, on top of that price there are additional prices for things like a shock mount and a windscreen, and I read the best bang for the buck is the Rode NTG-1, the NTG-1 with a shock mount and a windscreen is only about $350,

Although sound is very important to me, I am wondering if it will be a waist of $350? Is the NTG-1 a good mic? I do have a boom pole and from reading what you guys say here I think that I will want to have the mic out on that pole, but will i still get good quality audio with this microphone?

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The NTG-1 and NTG-2 (same mic, different powering options) are excellent values and should give you good results. I think I'd go with one of them before I'd go for the ME66. The reason I didn't mention them before is that for indoors work you want a hypercardioid, not a shotgun. You can also use the hyper outdoors or you can use a 'gun to get a bit more reach. So if I could only buy just ONE mic that has to serve both indoors and out, my first choice would be a hypercardioid in preference to a 'gun because it can give me good results in a wider range of circumstances. The 'gun would be the 2nd mic to buy once the budget gets replenished. That being said, the NTG should have less colouration indoors than the ME66 and has a tighter pattern so better off-axis rejection so if you decide to go with a 'gun for mic number 1, as I said I think it's a good choice.
 
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