Rewatched Pulp Fiction

[chromeboy007]

I've seen Breathless at least 6 or 7 times and even I can't tell you what he first said to her. Big deal.

hmm... the line is "Will you come to Italy with me?" It a very romantic line and it's the theme throughout the movie. I thought it would be memorable. Hell I don't even remember the guy's name, but this line I will remember for life.

 

[chromeboy007]

QT is not a thief. Directors like QT and Goddard aren't making films in a bubble. They are influenced by their contemporaries and I think it's interesting how QT/Other Filmmakers incorporate these influences into their films.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0062864/

I never accused him of stealing... I only said he is a master of appropriation and wanted his influenced acknowledged by people, that's all. otherwise you are right.

 

[Blaine]

Q T is definitely talky. But NO ONE talks like him. The most amazing thing about the opening scene of Reservoir Dogs is just how much we learn about the characters from their seemingly meaningless conversation. There are those who write better action than Q T, but I can think of NO ONE who writes better dialogue. I love listening to the rhythm and music in the dialogue he writes.

 

[Super Trooper]

Q T is definitely talky. But NO ONE talks like him.

yeah, but marty scosese is a close second. yakkity yak yak yak...

There are those who write better action than Q T, but I can think of NO ONE who writes better dialogue. I love listening to the rhythm and music in the dialogue he writes

I used to think QT was second only to David Mamet, but I must admit, the student has now become the master.

 

[Hairy Lime]

Tarantino is the most original filmmaker working today.

Two words for you.

Michel Gondry


Two more for you.

Chris Cunningham


How can someone who borrows everything be original?

Is this some kind of tongue-in-cheek thing? Am I missing a big inside joke?

 

[chromeboy007]

Two words for you.

Michel Gondry


Two more for you.

Chris Cunningham


How can someone who borrows everything be original?

Is this some kind of tongue-in-cheek thing? Am I missing a big inside joke?

I learn something new everyday... Eternal Sunshine is really something else.

I have 3 more... Wong Kar Wai. the way he made In The Mood for Love and 2046 alone is worth some credit, nevermind the actual accomplishments.

 

[Super Trooper]

Wong Kar Wai. the way he made In The Mood for Love and 2046 alone is worth some credit, nevermind the actual accomplishments.

here here :beer:

 

[KOVAROVA]

original - that is tough to put a finger on but here are a few i think almost get there..

Wong Kar Wai
Lars Von Trier
Jim Jarmusch
Pedro Almodóvar
Julio Medem
Jan Svankmajer
Aki Kaurismäki
Harmony Korine
Michel Gondry

etc etc...

but i dont see how we can't borrow or be influenced by what has already been done.

 

[chromeboy007]

original - that is tough to put a finger on but here are a few i think almost get there..

Wong Kar Wai
Lars Von Trier
Jim Jarmusch
Pedro Almodóvar
Julio Medem
Jan Svankmajer
Aki Kaurismäki
Harmony Korine
Michel Gondry

etc etc...

but i dont see how we can't borrow or be influenced by what has already been done.

so many films, so many auteurs, SO LITTLE TIME!

 

[Kholi]

so many films, so many auteurs, SO LITTLE TIME!

Auteur... boooo.

But I gotta agree on the Gondry statement.

Now THAT'S original, homey.

 

[J.R. Hudson]

Two words for you.

Michel Gondry

Two more for you.

Chris Cunningham

How can someone who borrows everything be original?

Is this some kind of tongue-in-cheek thing? Am I missing a big inside joke?

Godry; I love his work. I can concur, this man is orginal, as is Wes Anderson (now that were throwing original names around). Eternal is a wonderful film and The Science of Sleep looks to be just a fun.

But, I'll take Quentin any day of the week over Godry. Godry may have a deeper soul, but Tarantino's film's have a ballsack. And I need some machismo in my films.

-

Chris Cunningham ? Give me a filmmaker who has at least done something, please. Music Videos and abstract garde short films are great; but come on, keep this guy out of the equation especially when the names of Godard and Tarantino are concerned.

so many films, so many auteurs, SO LITTLE TIME!

Now that I can drink too ! :beer: :beer: :beer:

 

[The Machinist]

as is Wes Anderson

I'm surprised PTO hasn't jumped on this yet.

 

[Blaine]

I'm surprised PTO hasn't jumped on this yet.

I think he's got a crush...rogar-BigGrin(DBG)

 

[Kholi]

PTO so has a crush on Wes Anderson.

I like Wes, though. It's great that you can really separate yourself with a distinct directing style like his.

 

[Pen Cap Chew]

Not really fair to Chris Cunningham. Frankly, I have more faith that I will enjoy a new creation by Cunningham than any new flick by QT. So they are music videos, they are more interesting and original than 3 hours of Kill Bill. Kill Bill was flatlined from beginning to end IMO. I really don't get the appeal. And the animation sequence just made it even more difficult to want to stay with this borefest (quickest way to piss off and bore an audience is to stick in a block of animation in the middle of a film -- but maybe not, because I seem to be basically alone here!). I mean, even when the blood starts to flow (which I guess is the appeal for people who like this movie) QT turns it B&W (is this to keep from getting an NC-17 rating? How lame. Get the NC-17 if you have to). Am I the only one irritated by his style? And doesn't his films seem empty, non-filling, like a bag of Doritos? What are you left with, but orange cheezy fingers and a craving for something more ... satisfying. Reservior Dogs I liked a lot, but I think QT has been scraping the barrel for a while (is that why he puts out 1 film every 5 years?). All that said, a QT movie is still better than a lot of the movies being made but I think he is way way overrated. If he wasn't so hyped and given this God status, I'd be much more forgiving. Can I do better? That's not the point. I'm just saying his movies are really not that good and make me sleepy.


* Hudson takes out his heat tempered cutlery. I run like a girl. *

 

[CallaghanFilms]

Sorry I'm late to the dance, but...

Please insert word "American" between "Great" and "Filmmakers". In fact, insert "American" before "Filmmaker" every time you use the word "Filmmaker". Then your arguement is 100% valid.

To the above rubbish I'll quote myself (from http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=549208&postcount=34)

...And did you mean to say TOP 10 AMERICAN directors, 'cause that's all I'm seeing right now...

:huh: Ahhhh, No...there's nothing wrong with your eyes. I meant just what I said, "The Callaghan Top Ten Directors Of All Time List".

But, since you asked...

Yes, American filmmakers (...as well as actors & actresses & so on and so on) are the best in the world, like it or not.

First off, the cream of the crop talent-wise always make there way to the U.S. eventually. This is true more or less for the brightest and best in every field & not just in filmmaking...but let's focus on filmmaking.

I suggest you look again at my list...

02 Hitch (immigrated from the UK to the USA)
03 Capra (immigrated from Sicily to the USA)
04 Curtiz (immigrated from Hungary to the USA)
05 Huston (the son of Canadian immigrants to the USA)
06 Ford (the son of Irish immigrants to the USA)
08 Wilder (immigrated from Hungary to the USA)

Honorable Mentions:
-Wyler (immigrated from France to the USA)
-Zinnemann (immigrated from Austria to the USA)


You are the one who should be answering questions...questions like:

"Why do you penalize someone because they do come to America from ports all over the globe?"

-and-

"When exactly did these great men cease to be uber-talented...was it while in transit to America...or only after they had landed on US shores...or was it when they first make the decision to leave their country of birth? Or did their importance just gradually fade over time spent here?

 

[J.R. Hudson]

Not really fair to Chris Cunningham. Frankly, I have more faith that I will enjoy a new creation by Cunningham than any new flick by QT. So they are music videos, they are more interesting and original than 3 hours of Kill Bill. Kill Bill was flatlined from beginning to end IMO. I really don't get the appeal. And the animation sequence just made it even more difficult to want to stay with this borefest (quickest way to piss off and bore an audience is to stick in a block of animation in the middle of a film -- but maybe not, because I seem to be basically alone here!). I mean, even when the blood starts to flow (which I guess is the appeal for people who like this movie) QT turns it B&W (is this to keep from getting an NC-17 rating? How lame. Get the NC-17 if you have to). Am I the only one irritated by his style? And doesn't his films seem empty, non-filling, like a bag of Doritos? What are you left with, but orange cheezy fingers and a craving for something more ... satisfying. Reservior Dogs I liked a lot, but I think QT has been scraping the barrel for a while (is that why he puts out 1 film every 5 years?). All that said, a QT movie is still better than a lot of the movies being made but I think he is way way overrated. If he wasn't so hyped and given this God status, I'd be much more forgiving. Can I do better? That's not the point. I'm just saying his movies are really not that good and make me sleepy.


* Hudson takes out his heat tempered cutlery. I run like a girl. *

I can respect your take on the matter/

May I ask what major filmmaking you do enjoy ? (Just curious to gauge the spectrum were all revolved around)

Kill Bill was definately somethign else; what about Dogs? Pulp? Jackie Brown ?

Any thoughts?

-

Anyways; that's a good take. Tarantino (expecially Bill) is not for everyone and I understand

No cutlery (Just a samurai sword! j/k)

BTW

GREAT take Callaghan! Damn those American filmmakers. Shiiet, Polanski would be a resident by now if not for Samantha Geimer

 

[Jeremy Ordan]

You know, I don't care who anyone names, you can always work backwards and come up with an influence whether it is literary or through a visual medium...

Originality is taking something old and exposing a new audience or generation to it... Remember Homer? He never wrote anything down yet Brad Pitt was in a movie based off his writings something like 2500 years after the tale was told.

-Jeremy

 

[Hairy Lime]

But, I'll take Quentin any day of the week over Godry. Godry may have a deeper soul, but Tarantino's film's have a ballsack. And I need some machismo in my films.

With all due respect, this is a really, really, really juvenile way to judge "originality" in films. Or maybe you're being tongue-in-cheek, in which case, I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours.

Chris Cunningham ? Give me a filmmaker who has at least done something, please. Music Videos and abstract garde short films are great; but come on, keep this guy out of the equation especially when the names of Godard and Tarantino are concerned.

Some of the most moving cinema I've ever seen has been in the short form. Just because it's not popular in the US doesn't mean it's not a valid form of visual expression and originality.

I actually like QT's early work. RD, PF, and JB are all things I can pop in the DVD player at any time and enjoy from the start, but I don't find him particularly original and I suspect that in the pantheon of great filmmakers, he's going to be left by the wayside when the chips fall in their final resting places. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy his films, only that he's a sustainable flavor of the week who will eventually lose popularity unless he can evolve into something substantive. There are dozens of fine directors who fall into this same category right on up to Sam Peckenpah. I like SPs films, but I wouldn't rank him with some of the truly-greats listed in this thread. And even if QT ends up with a Peckenpahesque career, that shouldn't be a disappointment for QT or anyone else.

There are plenty of directors whose next films I look forward to more than the next QT installment and I saw Kill Bill Vol 1 the day it opened.

 

[J.R. Hudson]

With all due respect, this is a really, really, really juvenile way to judge "originality" in films. Or maybe you're being tongue-in-cheek, in which case, I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours.

Really ? Juvenile ? I am being somewhat tongue in cheek; but no ...

I do need some substance in my films. I agree; both filmmkaers are original; but I do prefer a sack and not some sappy surreal abstract emotion. I need some depth. I need machismo.

Dont take it personal

Some of the most moving cinema I've ever seen has been in the short form. Just because it's not popular in the US doesn't mean it's not a valid form of visual expression and originality.

That is not what I said; I said 'Keep the short filmmaker's and music video maker out of the eqaution. We're talking about major filmmakers here. Otherwise, someone will bring up Stan Brackage and Ill shi*e myself

I actually like QT's early work. RD, PF, and JB are all things I can pop in the DVD player at any time and enjoy from the start, but I don't find him particularly original

Who do you then ?

and I suspect that in the pantheon of great filmmakers, he's going to be left by the wayside when the chips fall in their final resting places.

14 Years later he's still considered an influence and force in filmmaking. Maybe after Grindhouse and Bastards we can make judgement. But I think youll be wrong.

only that he's a sustainable flavor of the week who will eventually lose popularity unless he can evolve into something substantive.

14 years a later ..............

There are dozens of fine directors who fall into this same category

Whom?

right on up to Sam Peckenpah. I like SPs films, but I wouldn't rank him with some of the truly-greats listed in this thread.

Peckenpah ? Really ? I give this dude major credit if not just for violence in cinema. My Fav's ? Wild Bunch, Getaway, Convoy and Osterman Weekend

There are plenty of directors whose next films I look forward to more than the next QT installment and I saw Kill Bill Vol 1 the day it opened.

I can name a small handful of directors who I look forward to but QT is the one I cant wait fo the next one; I can wait for Speilberg, Scorsese, Cameron and on and on and on