Retina Mac Book Pros

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(sorry, don't know where the Editors section is.)

I have been waiting for these higher resolutions. Now they are here. Looks good for editors of all kinds, and finally I won't have to see pixels, unless I really want to. Though, seeing as only FCPX is available for now, I may wait until I actually want to use fcpx.

Less than a year ago, I paid a premium for a 1050p 15" screen, which is an improvement over the standard of 800p, but still a bit of a disappointment when editing video with a traditional NLE interface.

But for now, at least the real world argument of the effect of resolution, will no longer be hypothetical.
 
I'm thinking i may finally be moving over to Apple.
Do you know if the aspect ratio is 16:10 or 16:9?
It seems that Apple may be the last man standing with 16:10 as all other laptops are only being made in 16:9.
 
I'm hesitant for the first time in a long time. I will wait a few months before moving on one.

My current macbook pro has an ssd but no retina and sometimes it gets uncomfortably hot.
My iPad3 has a retina and it gets crazy hot and battery charge time is an issue
 
J Davis said:
I'm hesitant for the first time in a long time. I will wait a few months before moving on one.

My current macbook pro has an ssd but no retina and sometimes it gets uncomfortably hot.
My iPad3 has a retina and it gets crazy hot and battery charge time is an issue
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Battery life is my main concern, given that all the other specs are top knotch (ok, no CUDA engine yet), but it also looks to have a larger battery than the current MBP's, and is SSD standard. So, hopefully that will offset the new power hungry components.

If I was buying new, it'd be an easier choice, as I paid more for my 4GB,2.2 i7, 512MB GFX, 1050p version less than a year ago.
 
James0b57 said:
(sorry, don't know where the Editors section is.)

I have been waiting for these higher resolutions. Now they are here. Looks good for editors of all kinds, and finally I won't have to see pixels, unless I really want to. .
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I wish I had your eyes. I sit in front of my 24" desktop screen at 1920 x 1080 and unless I almost touch the screen with my nose, I´m not able to see a single pixel.
And that with glasses that give me almost 100% sight.

Now I try to imagine more resolution on a tiny 15" screen.
All the buttons and letters must shrink to microscopic sizes.
 
Some other things I appreciate about it...
USB 3, and USB ports on both sides.
HDMI
2 thunderbolt ports.

though, that means FF800 now requires adapter, but no biggie.

Also the Mt Lion looks to have a few likeable upgrades. If only the lion they used for the logo didn't look like it was impersonating Zoolander, I could take it more seriously.
 
Postmaster said:
I wish I had your eyes. I sit in front of my 24" desktop screen at 1920 x 1080 and unless I almost touch the screen with my nose, I´m not able to see a single pixel.
And that with glasses that give me almost 100% sight.

Now I try to imagine more resolution on a tiny 15" screen.
All the buttons and letters must shrink to microscopic sizes.
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Most of the text should remain the same size, but just less aliasing.

Ideally I am much farther from the screen, and using dual monitors, but on the occasion I use a laptop, it is nice to lean in, rather than digitally zoom in and resize windows when I need to see more detail. Far more organic experience, and a time saver.

EDIT:
If there were a hotkey to blow up a viewer window, could somebody let me know what that is, so I don't have to upgrade? (Adobe premiere or FCP7) Thanks!
 
Two Thunderbolt ports are what I really want, that or for manufacturers to stop putting only one T-bolt connector on their devices. They can't all be at the end of the chain...
 
Postmaster said:
I wish I had your eyes. I sit in front of my 24" desktop screen at 1920 x 1080 and unless I almost touch the screen with my nose, I´m not able to see a single pixel.
And that with glasses that give me almost 100% sight.

Now I try to imagine more resolution on a tiny 15" screen.
All the buttons and letters must shrink to microscopic sizes.
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Did they shrink on the Ipad from version 1 to 3? LOL!
 
Postmaster said:
I wish I had your eyes. I sit in front of my 24" desktop screen at 1920 x 1080 and unless I almost touch the screen with my nose, I´m not able to see a single pixel.
And that with glasses that give me almost 100% sight.

Now I try to imagine more resolution on a tiny 15" screen.
All the buttons and letters must shrink to microscopic sizes.
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I'm sitting here at a res of 2560x1440. At normal viewing distance, I SEE PIXEL PITCH!
 
James0b57 said:
EDIT:
If there were a hotkey to blow up a viewer window, could somebody let me know what that is, so I don't have to upgrade? (Adobe premiere or FCP7) Thanks!
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In CS6, on whatever window your mouse pointer is over, hit the "tilde" key - ~

Hit once to go to full screen, hit again to shrink it back down. Great for working on a laptop. Blow up your
"media selection" window, or "Project", "Source", "Playback", "Timeline" etc. Perfect.

You can also hit Shift + on a PC on the window that is selected - not the one cursor/mouse pointer is on. I just use ~ all of the time.

Michael
 
unadog said:
In CS6, on whatever window your mouse pointer is over, hit the "tilde" key - ~

Hit once to go to full screen, hit again to shrink it back down. Great for working on a laptop. Blow up your
"media selection" window, or "Project", "Source", "Playback", "Timeline" etc. Perfect.

You can also hit Shift + on a PC on the window that is selected - not the one cursor/mouse pointer is on. I just use ~ all of the time.

Michael
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It works in CS5.5 too! Awesome. What a great day. =) Thank you!
 
Dear Michael's wife, your husband is pretty awesome.

Sincerely,
James
 
refocusedmedia said:
Meh.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5996/how-the-retina-display-macbook-pro-handles-scaling
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Meh what? Who in the world would want more than 1920x1200, it'd be unuseable at 15.4". I tested one out in the store today, I was VERY impressed with the display and the scaling, and found 1920x1200 to be look great, be very sharp and readable, and could see myself working in FCPX with that. I think the scaling options are great.

refocusedmedia said:
Also, hope you don't ever need repairs. It has been deemed the "least reparable" Laptop ever, by iFixit. As if they weren't overpriced enough...

http://ifixit.org/2753/macbook-pro-with-retina-display-teardown/
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Saw this, I think it's sort of funny. I mean, a title that says "least repairable laptop ever" has a pretty negative sound to, and it assumes that it was a design FLAW rather than a design CONSEQUENCE. It seems to me quite obvious that to gain extreme thinness and lightweight, you give up/trade off other things. Seeing as how the Flash memory storage isn't something that isn't likely to need repair, and given that logic boards and displays are extremely expensive laptop repairs to begin with, the only real downside I see her is RAM upgradeability (but with 16gb RAM, I don't see this being a big issue before the time that I would simply need/want to upgrade my entire laptop anyway) and battery replacement (but given Apple's superior 5-year battery technology, again, I don't see this being a big issue before I want to upgrade).

There's really not a lot to go wrong or need repair here on other than large, expensive items anyway. That said, Applecare 3 year warranty seems to be definitely a worthwhile purchase on this machine (than again, a warranty on most laptops is worth it anyway).
 
I like a bit more modularity in an expensive machine. But I think 16GB RAM + i7 should be enough for the next two years, so not really a big issue. But that means you have to pay a premium now (about $3500) to 'future' proof it, since there is no upgrading later (16GB RAM and 756GB SSD). Spending that kind of money, and thinking of long term, I'd definitely puchase Apple care, but then it would only be a little more to go ahead and max out the CPU too, so then we'd be at $4100. So, actually, one might as well buy the entry level retina MBP and buy a whole new one in a year or two, and end up spending the same money or less, since you could sell the first laptop to offset the newer purchase.

Economic judgement says just buy a laptop with retina display when it is cheap or absolutely necessary.

I can see why they would redesign the internals, to make it all fit into a thinner package. I am not much into modding my computers anymore, and now that there are few moving parts they are slightly more reliable, but I still like the idea that I can add RAM and SSD as needed. Take that option away, and that puts a bad taste in my mouth.

Thanks for the heads up with that link. There is still a lot to like about the new MBP's, but at least I no longer see the need to "upgrade", for now.
 
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