Render mixed format timeline to 24P VEGAS 10

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Hello all.

I have mixed format project:

1920x1080 29.97 Progressive
1280x720 59.94 Progressive
1920x1080 29.97 Upper Field First
1440x1080 29.97 Upper Field First
720x480 29.97 Lower Field First (only a couple clips)

cameras used: Panasonic GH2, Panasonic HPX250, Panasonic HPX 370, Canon 5d mk III

...and would like to render to 24P in Vegas Pro 10. I have tried a couple "Save as type" renders - AVI, Sony AVC, etc. and still am not happy with the results (ie: juttery and not smooth).

I have disabled resample on all the clips, in project properties, selected HD 1080-24P project template, deinterlace method set to "interpolate fields". The end use will be posted on my client's website although premier of the video will likely be at a luncheon via SD LCD projector.

I shot most of this with a shallow DOF field for a more film-like look and would like to carry that through to the final render (hence the query about 24P render).

Is 24P the way to go? If so, should I render in AVI format. And if that holds true, then specifically, what custom settings should I be using? Should I use the default pixel aspect of 1.000, the default video format of Sony YUV Codec or one of the others (Cineform, Cinepak, Intel IYUV, Uncompressed...etc)? And, should I use the default "interleave every 0.25 seconds or interleave every frame?

I have done a good deal of reading and feel I need just a bit more info.

If anyone has sort of a definitive "template" with all of these variables covered, I would most certainly be grateful.

Best to all, Jeffro
 
Is the majority of this the 30p (29.97 progressive)? If so, that would explain the stutter, as 30p does not convert well to 24p, or vice versa.

All the 60i and 60p stuff should, though.
 
Looking through my project media, it appears as though most (about 2/3) of the footage I used is 30P or 30i. I'm not married to a 24P render if 30p will ultimately look better - simply exploring various permutations to see what looks the best and not so "video". Footage looks awesome otherwise.
 
Well, "30i" is actually 60i, so that should convert to 24p just as well as 60p (though with resolution loss).

A 30p render will be fine, but you'll find the same problem with your 24p footage.

I would make the choice based on which footage you have more of.
 
As I suspected, looks like 30p it will be. Next time I will simply, as many have suggested, shoot at 24P.

As for the render formats, AVI, MPEG4, etc. and the variables with the chosen format?
 
Thanks David. I've been doing much more web delivery and almost no DVD. Almost exclusively I would render in Sony AVC/MPEG4. One last question, if rendering for broadcast television, what would you use?
 
I've produced a lot of content lately for air on local PBS. Specs are loose there, to be sure. But I have delivered mostly MPEG4 HD.

For, say, a network situation, do you have any experienced having delivered content for national broadcast? We have 4 HPX370s and a 5th HPX 250 so running a high bitrate to meet specs is not a problem. It's the delivery (render) end that I would like info on.
 
That'll depend on the network. I've never delivered for network broadcast, but I've read specs, and they're usually wanting 100 Mbps. Some want 1080i; some want 720p.
 
Thanks again. That answers my questions and looks like (when we get that multi-million $$ contract) we can deliver at spec.

Best wishes for a great day.
 
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