Red Rock Follow Focus vs. Indi systems follow focus

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BPatterson

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hey whats up everyone, alright i'm picking up a letus extreme soon and with that picking up a follow focus. Of what i found i narrowed to either the RedRock Micro follow focus or the IndiSystem follow focus.
Anybody have any suggestions on which way i should i go?

thanks
 
This is no comparison. These aren't in the same price range either. One costs $650 with 3 gears the other is $360 with 3 gears. If you have the money, the Redrock is the choice hands down. I had two of these units come in recently and they are solid. Surprisingly tight, no backlash, no play, dampened, and solid. I am very impressed with the improvements they've made.

If you have even close to $600 get the Redrock and you'll never look back. I highly suggest it in this price range. It is THE best FF under $900. I think the Cavision FF15D is the next best unit once you break into the $900 range.
 
Avenger007 said:
This is no comparison. These aren't in the same price range either. One costs $650 with 3 gears the other is $360 with 3 gears.
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Take a close look and you will see that it is exactly the same unit.
Redrock and Indie putting their own knobs and labels (and price tags) on that good old indian made FF and gears.

Frank
 
As I said in the "The IndiMatte...Resistance is futile" thread, there is nothing wrong with reselling revamped equipment from India.

Making money by importing stuff from Asia or India and ad some $$ at the price tag for shipping/advertising and profit is a comon practice and nobody cares.

But puting a "made in the US sticker" (only because that China made Knob was bolted on in Oklahoma) and a obscene price tag on it is not so nice.

Making profit is o.k. but greed is a capital sin.

Amen.

Frank
 
The IndiSystem looks very little like the Redrock to me....Smaller gear with different physical attachment. Non standard gear and whip connection. Different rail mount system. The gearbox looks like it may be different as well but that is very hard to tell without physically having the units.

Cine follow focus I could easily find on ebay and while there are some striking similarities to the RR, there are also some notable differences...apart from the labelling.

This link is pretty good at showing the differences between the two (IndiSystem/Redrock) particularly in terms of performance.

http://www.freshdv.com/2007/10/freshdv-reviews-five-follow-focus-systems.html

Even though I don't entirely consider it to be a great review it shows me enough to want the Redrock over the Indi. As for the Redrock vs the Cine...again without having both I wouldn't have an educated opinion.

My feeling is that the Redrock is what I will be getting when the funds are in line.
 
That FreshDV review has been posted over and over. It should be noted that the IndiFocus being reviewed there is an old version that has since been discontinued. The new version is much better.
 
You looked at the old version of the Indi.

Here is the new one

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and this is the RR and gears

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this is the Indian and indian gears

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Frank
 
don't know about the indifocus, but the redrock ff wasn't and isn't made in india, and was designed by their team in the US. the cheaper indian copies that are on ebay only started appearing in the past year or so, and the knockoffs weren't limited to the follow focus and lens gears -- they had an exact replica (at least on a superficial level) of the m2, down to the big black box and silver handle, on ebay for months. there's been a bit of discussion about this on the redrock boards.
 
Active Industries India makes camera equipment since 1988.

I got my FF from them in 2006- way before they hit Ebay and way before the advent of the RR FF.

I may be wrong, but the RR looks like it has at least the same gears and probably the same gear box.

The brace looks a bit more elegant but is very similar.

I can not belive that Active Industries goes into the trouble to make such a exact copy of both - lens and focus gear instead of using something of the shelf. There are easyer and cheaper ways to make lens gears. By the way - I wish they had made a more adjustable lens gear like that from GearDear and not those lousy plastic rings.

Indie did an even worse step by using a narrow gear with od stepping. Compatible to nothing.


Frank
 
Postmaster said:
I may be wrong, but the RR looks like it has at least the same gears and probably the same gear box.
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Can't be. RR updated their gearbox in November 06. I have both and the difference is night and day. No way is their product an exact copy.
 
Frank, I agree with your other comments about the active industry products, but the FF is a different issue.

I have used all three of these FF units. Don't go by photos. The Redrock versus the india/indifocus is no comparison. The redrock is built MUCH more solid. The indifocus doesn't even come assembled. It has a flimsy set screw that holds the drive gear and focus wheel on to the gear box. The gear box is sloppy and backlash/play is more evident. The quality of the plastic is not even the same. The redrock uses a more robust plastic with better coating and metal in various components.

The drive gear is about the only similarity between the india and redrock units. The size of the gear boxes is similar but they aren't built to the same tolerances.
I don't have the active industry lens gears though. Are they the same quality as the redrock gears because their price tag is much more attractive.
 
Errare humanum est!

I used Arri and Chrosziel FFs some of them got more backlash than my indian FF - some where much tighter. I guess they all wear over the years.

Most of the time my focus puller has mor backlash anyways - he is probably worn out too ;-)

Frank
 
The Chrosziel at school has more play than my Indifocus, even if its build quality is infinitely better.

I chose the Indifocus because it was either that or no FF at all. One day I'll upgrade to the RR or better, but for now the indifocus gets the job done.
 
Right, same company. They have 4 or 5 different ebay shops.

Funny thing, they have often totaly different prices on the same item.
You can save $50 or more that way.

Frank
 
You are right,
I bought stabilizer "indian steadicam" for $1024 and save around $150.
 
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