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Which ones not applying noise reduction are spotless at iso6400?
RED Komodo to start limited shipping soon for $6k
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Which ones not applying noise reduction are spotless at iso6400?
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Thanks! Updated my post
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Yeah, and in a way, i personally don’t use hfr. But directors and producers love it, so, i have to have it.
That is interesting. Was actually liking the idea of 12v BPA’s. Since most “cine” accessories have a 12v input option or requirement. However, like you say, that looks like a much cheaper up front cost for a basic system. That should be a popular decision. I hope that means it is a power sipper and not something that requires swapping batts every 30mins. The DSMC2 camera seem safe from direct competition with the Komodo each new detail.
ahalpert
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Yeah the Alexa has a much cleaner ISO 6400...oh wait, it doesn't go that high
I remember Jarred Land saying somewhere that 2 batteries (955s maybe?) would combined run it for 3 hours. (And it has a dual battery slot that's hot swappable)
No lie - I'm getting very excited for Komodo. I dont know if it would be a money maker for me but it would most likely improve my IQ for a very reasonable price
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Luckily you are in NY, so you should be able to get hands on one of those before buying, which is always nice. Especially with Reds. But yeah, i am excited at the possibility of having a camera i can tote around everywhere that matches the other Reds. I dislike learning new camera systems these days.
Jim Arthurs
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Back in RED early days I had per-ordered serial number 411, but chose not to follow through because it was a work in progress, the RED culture bothered me, I knew the accessories would kill me (since I don't shoot weekly or rent out) and I didn't want to spend 17K for a sloppy CMOS when I could spend 6 grand for a Sony EX1 with the same amount of CMOS sensor slop. You can still find my evolving thoughts and concerns during those early days on Red User and sort of see the exact moment I chose to jump ship after doing some tests with a friend's early RED.
I was/am doing things where a global shutter in a box shaped, small inexpensive camera with good dynamic range would help a bunch. Now there's a 6 grand RED (the same cost as that EX1 I loved for five years!) with a global shutter and suddenly I'm interested for the first time since 2007 or so. Between the non RED memory and those common Canon batteries I'm really getting excited. I don't want to be excited, but I am. Looking forward to samples and user reports...
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That is great for 7.2v BP batteries.
Grug
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With the new mini v-mount that are readily available, I wish manufacturers would stop dicking around with the small-fry consumer-style batteries for these things, and just put a proper v-mount on them. All the LED lights, and monitors on set run off them - just stick to the known standard.
Small batteries are just painful. You need a bunch of them, you need additional chargers. It just makes things messier than they need to be.
At least make the rear battery plate swappable. So you give people a choice.
Small batteries are just painful. You need a bunch of them, you need additional chargers. It just makes things messier than they need to be.
At least make the rear battery plate swappable. So you give people a choice.
ahalpert
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Sure. But this is lighter weight, hot swappable and cheaper. Everything Komodo is about!
Oh and this was what Jarred Land said about the batteries:
"no no no you are looking at the wrong batteries
I know its confusing but you want the ones that are 7.4v, not the 14v.
Look for the BP-955. Thats what we are using here and they are about $140 each. They do make bigger ones ( and smaller ones ) But the BP-955 is a pretty nice size and 2 of them on the back give you about 3 hours of continuous recording."
Oh and this was what Jarred Land said about the batteries:
"no no no you are looking at the wrong batteries
I know its confusing but you want the ones that are 7.4v, not the 14v.
Look for the BP-955. Thats what we are using here and they are about $140 each. They do make bigger ones ( and smaller ones ) But the BP-955 is a pretty nice size and 2 of them on the back give you about 3 hours of continuous recording."
NorBro
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Not much lighter. Some mini V-mount batteries get down to 500 grams. Maybe even lighter.
Yeah, the Canons may be better if you're trying to count every gram and millimeter for your one-handed gimbal, but an option to have a swappable plate in the back is a no-brainer (as Grug mentioned).
Yeah, the Canons may be better if you're trying to count every gram and millimeter for your one-handed gimbal, but an option to have a swappable plate in the back is a no-brainer (as Grug mentioned).
LochnessDigital
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What people are forgetting here is Komodo is designed as a crash cam first. The BP battery mount in the camera is designed to really hang on tight to those batteries. I'd worry about a V mount popping off in that situation. We'll probably see third parties make adapter plates though if you really must use a V mount -- Vaxis is already working on a wireless transmitter back that mounts the battery mounts and adapts it to V mount in the same swoop.
Probably not, actually. Here's what Jarred said to someone asking the same question: "Careful with the BP-915. Some of the smaller dual cells just don't have enough amps in them."
Probably not, actually. Here's what Jarred said to someone asking the same question: "Careful with the BP-915. Some of the smaller dual cells just don't have enough amps in them."
NorBro
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You can get one 98Wh mini (or a compact V-mount) for $240. So one would be cheaper than two Canons, and last 2-3x as long (depending on the model).
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod..._vmp98s_micro_series_98wh_v_mount_li_ion.html
But regular V-mounts are even cheaper. Lots of options for $150-$200, which would power that camera for 8-10 hours if size/weight didn't matter.
Bricks have always made most sense for cinema cameras. An industry-standard. This Komodo battery idea kind of reminds me of REDVOLTs, which might have been universally hated for their short running time. (They eventually made better ones though.)
The real additional cost is going to come from adding multiple batteries/chargers to your kit if you'll need to shoot continuously all day long (without AC).
And if the above comment is true, you may have to have two batteries for both slots on stand-by.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod..._vmp98s_micro_series_98wh_v_mount_li_ion.html
But regular V-mounts are even cheaper. Lots of options for $150-$200, which would power that camera for 8-10 hours if size/weight didn't matter.
Bricks have always made most sense for cinema cameras. An industry-standard. This Komodo battery idea kind of reminds me of REDVOLTs, which might have been universally hated for their short running time. (They eventually made better ones though.)
The real additional cost is going to come from adding multiple batteries/chargers to your kit if you'll need to shoot continuously all day long (without AC).
And if the above comment is true, you may have to have two batteries for both slots on stand-by.
ahalpert
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Sure but what about 3rd party? You can get a 64wh kastar for $26.
And as far as mounting it on a Ronin-S without a big heavy battery hanging off the back...yes, please
ahalpert
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So I heard. But I bought the non-"red" v mount batteries from globalmediapro and they worked anyway. (They had a line of batts specifically for RED.)
One could probably pull power straight from the Ronin...I wonder if its possible...probably inadvisable because then you need a few spare ronin batteries in addition
One could probably pull power straight from the Ronin...I wonder if its possible...probably inadvisable because then you need a few spare ronin batteries in addition