Red head tungsten lights from China

TNC

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After reading some revues here i decided to take the plunge and got the 3 redhead kit for around 290$ from link-delight-na on ebay. Great price, fast shipping, nice looking lights. I suspect most sellers are selling the same lights, just different store names.

Yes, they look like the real deal.
Yes the deliver the wattage.
Yes it really felt like a bargain.

***That is until i actually used them***

No they are not professional cinema lights.
No they will not survive a full day of shooing without at least one major poo poo up per unit.
No the wires are not made of heat resistant material (they melt).
No they are not nearly as sturdy as brand lights, hint, hint... they fall apart in your hands.
No the included light bulbs are not made to last more than an hour.
No the carrying case is not meant to last for more than one trip.

I love generic stuff from china and often it is no less great than the original gear at a fraction of the price. I had heard things like "well they are not as nicely built as Arri's" or "all stuff made in china is low quality, so the lights suck". I was expecting something in the middle, but as a redhead is a pretty simple piece of equipment, i figured what can really go that wrong???

Answer: Everything!!!!!

After a two day shoot the lighting kit is in shambles - melted wires to the point where all three are not functioning, multiple light bulbs exploded, the read color is burnt on some of them, barn doors falling off, carrying case falling apart, light fixture breaking... the included light stands are so far the best part. Basically all three where dead by lunch on day two.

Did i abuse them???

If having them running for 3 hours counts as abuse than yes.

Bottom line, they might work if you are doing one hour interviews and maybe this is what they are being marketed as. Although i don't see them surviving multiple trips, loading, unloading... If on the other hand you are planning on using them on anything more substantial they are simply a waist of money. It is really sad as they could have been a great solution at a very cheep price. It seems that the cost cutting has deeply affected the building quality to the point where they are useless even in a moderately professional environment.

I was newer expecting a high quality product, but i do have to say i have newer had such a complete breakdown of any equipment in my life. I am not even angry at the seller its more like a smile of disbelieve on my face.

*This is obviously only one man's experience and maybe the lights come in different flavors of quality depending where you buy them. I bough one of the slightly higher priced kits fro one of the more sleeker looking sellers.

Hope this post helps someone else.
 
hi tcn

i posted here some time ago warning people about these lights

they are a load of dangerous crap....no earth termination

is just one of their problems......

it is a case of ..you get what you pay for...


cheers
ian
 
The ones I bought work fine for me. What "brand" do they say on the back back?
 
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I was also lucky, mine came with fully earthed cable and the quality is up to my standards for production usage.
 
Where did you get yours ilauzirika?


I can't really remember, but it was via ebay to someone that claimed to be in Australia (thought the shipment came from HK...).
I'll try and see if I can find the seller, but it's been more than 90 days and usually the data of purchases isn't kept longer than 90 days.
 
We must stop buying the cheap Chinese made junk. If it doesn't work you didn't save a thing!


I have a real bone to pick with this crap lately. When you stop to consider quality in regard to time wasted purchasing the same stuff repeatedly because it was SO cheap in the first place (and being ok with it), and/or how many uses you'll get out of well engineered, well made gear of good materials, it seems like a pretty simple equation and deduction.

Sure the hope is always that maybe it'll last long enough to make it worthwhile and that you might get lucky, but really, when you consider the odds that any of that will happen, and how much time you will lose when a piece of gear you depend on stops working - just get better gear.

The Chinese are very adept at making knock-off items that look like the real deal. They are masters at it and they know there's a HUGE market in America for cheap stuff that looks like the real deal. Hence - Walmart.

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Yet they manufacture so many high-quality items and sell them at a fraction of the cost of the same items with name brands on them. Examples include batteries, chargers, battery grips, intervalometers, lens hoods, photo bags, flashes, and wireless flash triggers and receivers just to name a few. Sometimes they make them even better. And sometimes it's the same damn thing minus the brand name.

However, when dealing with items that may present concerns about safety (e.g. children's toys, electrical items), it's best to go with products that have met the appropriate standards and have been certified as such.
 
Well I won two of these in an auction for $3 and $20 s/h a piece - only bidder :) . I've had them on about seven shoots and have had no problem once so ever. Are they as good as pro lights ...no ...but I treat my equipment with care and take the extra time to pack them correctly. I have heard of others complaining about other cheap china knockoffs and of course they arn't as sturdy... but you then have to be a little more careful.
 
I have a real bone to pick with this crap lately. When you stop to consider quality in regard to time wasted purchasing the same stuff repeatedly because it was SO cheap in the first place (and being ok with it), and/or how many uses you'll get out of well engineered, well made gear of good materials, it seems like a pretty simple equation and deduction.

Sure the hope is always that maybe it'll last long enough to make it worthwhile and that you might get lucky, but really, when you consider the odds that any of that will happen, and how much time you will lose when a piece of gear you depend on stops working - just get better gear.

The Chinese are very adept at making knock-off items that look like the real deal. They are masters at it and they know there's a HUGE market in America for cheap stuff that looks like the real deal. Hence - Walmart.

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Skoal!
 
I know this is an old topic but I want to bump it just to ask a question of my own. In our show we have 2 old REAL redheads which work great. The problem is they do not have a safety screen and in general they are falling apart. The light quality is by far better than the Lowel Omni but without a screen I refuse to use them outside of the shop. For the life of me I cannot find anyone in the US that is a Ianiro dealer where I can either buy a couple of new fixtures an/or parts for our old ones. So does anyone know of anywhere in the states that parts can be acquired?
 
hi ben,

go to your local hardware store and pick up a couple of square feet of METAL flywire screen

take the barndoors off cut flywire a bit bigger than the open face and put barndoors back on

(i stress metal flywire because the nylon type causes all sorts of grief)

may cut down the intensity a little but will contain any exploding bits
 
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