Recording noise music concerts with a shotgun mic or alternate devices

Reverend Godless

Reverend Godless

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Hey all,
I've been looking into what would be the best way to capture audio while taping video for noise music shows. Noise music being defined as music that is loud and textural played in small venues with more focus on atmosphere than acoustics. I'm shooting with a DVX100A and hoping to upgrade to a AF100 around April. Any good ideas for some mics that will carry a dynamic range and handle a heavy load? Will a really rad mic like the Audio Technica 4073a get me down and dirty? Should I turn to alternate devices to pick up the audio like decks and preamps and mics specifically for loud audio? your input greatly appreciated

soon,
luke
 
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This is live music played Loud in harsh conditions. Usually harsh sounds to begin with (is the nature of the music).
The clips I've heard using the SASS-P sounds pretty gnarly. I dig the depth, and the all in one thing is appealing. Also it being stereo.
Seems like lots of people on other forums are talking about how they were able to get them pretty cheap but they're no longer available this way? HC version w/o windscreen and stand adapter and such usually a resale. seems to be a shortage.
Any other friendly recommendations? Anything I could use on camera ?
 
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If you are limited to the mic on the camera I know a guy who just puts a SM-57 mic on the camera. Think about it. You don't need a shotgun mic that is good foe getting sound from a distance. The sound is in your face and all over. A shotgun, it you were kneeling in front of the band, say, shooting up, would be getting sound as is would be heard from the ceiling or bouncing around in a back corner. The SM-57 or some other rugged dynamic mic will just record what is directly in front of it. It doesn't need to be super sensitive either. The spl will really get that dynamic mic moving.

If you are not limited to the mic on the camera drop a ZOOM H2 or solid state recorder on a mic stand or attached to the ceiling somewhere near the sound board. Know the guy or gal running sound? Use a ZOOM H4 and get an XLR feed from the board. Be sure phantom power is off on the H4 or you will send a buzz to the PA and give video creators everywhere a bad name.
 
Originally I was planning to get an Edirol R-09HR on recommendation from a friend who makes music professionally. He just places the deck on stage with him and his girlfriend and they make CDs of every show for sale for $5 at their merch table. The quality while lacking some fullness is really sharp and totally professional quality. I sync to it when I make videos for him.

I was planning on going a little of a higher end route and getting some Church Audio CA-14s and a ST-9100 preamp and then wearing a hat to clip the mics to and pocketing the R-09HR while taping with video and maybe doing a mix of some on board mic with the set up. I think I could get some good audio that way. That's the set up used for this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA3-aeQBjK8 and I think the audio is probably the best live mic'ed recorded mix I've ever heard !

I was just hoping to solve two conundrums by finding a killer shotgun mic that would handle very loud environments. Perhaps I'm better off getting two separate packages.
 
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