Really need some help choosing NLE

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Ivo van Aart

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>>>This is a very long question, I know. But please take your time to answer it, as I'm getting pretty desperate! Thank you!<<<

I'm having a bit of a problem here. We're shooting a feature (90 min). And we'll be editting soon. But there are some problems: I thought I could edit on my 2ghz dual core 1gb ram laptop with 256mb videocard, but it's pretty difficult.

Here are the things I want from a editting workflow:
-An Final Cut Pro-like interface (I was trained in FCP, but now I must work with a PC).
-A fluid playback, preferably WITH corolcorrection.
-If fluid playback with colorcorrection is not possible, it should render to a codec like Canopus HQ or Aspect HD
-Multiple timelines needed! I want to edit a scene in one timeline, then drop the timeline in another timeline with the other scenes to create the whole film. I that's not possible, the software should offer another alternative.

Now, I've tried the following NLE's:

-Edius
Very FCP-like interface. Also renders to lossless codec! Pretty fast, but not fast enough (stutters like hell sometimes). I found no timeline-in-timeline-options and I can't open the bin to view clips. So two (three, incl. the speed-problem) problems must be fixed before I want to use Edius

-Vegas
VERY fast. But after colorcorrection this NLE's videoplayback is far from smooth. Also it doesn't have a FCP-like interface and no timeline-in-timeline-options. (As far as a could find).

-Premiere Pro CS3
Beautiful and surprisingly fast! Very FCP-like interface. I feel right at home. But: doesn't cope with colorcorrection. Playback is far from smooth when colorcorrecting. Renders to MPG and renders veeeery slow (10 minutes for 1 minute of video, outrageous).


So none of these NLE's has all the functions I need. I know it's also hardware related, but I'm not in the position to buy better hardware right now (and 2ghz dualcore should be great?). So, what NLE should I choose, and what should I do to fix the problem? Please suggest other NLE's if there is a better one not listed.

Thanks very much!
 
premiere with Aspect HD will give you some real time CC ability - works well for me - I just go with whatever is comfortable. For big color correction projects I CC in AE though. So much more conrol. Render time is a fact of life - why render for CC though? I just need to see one frame anyways. Do the final render overnight and call it a day.
 
I think you need to consider your workflow better.

Get an NLE that you can use for offline edit ing that is efficient, fast and one you are comfortable with.

Then accept that Online , CC and and encoding etc take rendering time. Do all that last and not while you edit.

Hardware is going to be an issue for you with any NLE software (especially with one gig RAM) so accept that or change it.
 
in not sure what sort of rendering to mpg your doing. i can render to mpg in less than real time even when doing a 2 pass encode. now if youve got alot of effects and whatnot applied, its going to take a while no matter what format your rendering to on any nle unless youve got some sort of render farm or real time hardware.

as far as playing back in realtime with CC i can apply generous CC and a few effects to boot and get very near realtime playback only skipping a few frames here and there when working in SD or even HD as long as i keep the quality set to automatic.

of course its all going to vary pending you machine specs as well.
 
Your post is vaque

What format is your footge HD, SD OR DV?
If its HD or SD you will need additional hardware or software. All the above mentioned NLE's can are very good and all have the ability to nest sequences. Thats the beauty of soft edit machines.
If you are broke, edit everything offline or in proxy with cuts only. Make sure your cuts only edits are great . Then do your color corrections online. With digital video you can never win the first time around.

you need real real time, get
1. Avid media composer with adrenaline.
2. Get matrox axxo for premiere
3. or just get smoke

I don't mean to be mean but, check out the specs of your NLE of choice on the box or at thier website to see what you will need for hardware.
 
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