re-the dreaded mac vs pc debate

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Mino

Northern Dreamer
I was just cruising the board and read something in “the dreaded Mac- PC debate” sort of suggesting that Mac’s don’t need repairs, when I was reminded of an old story my dad told me way back.




A wealthy man was riding in his Rolls Royce on a lonely stretch of desert in the Middle East to oversee and visit his oil companies. On a really bad stretch of road, the rear axel broke on the Rolls, unable to carry on the man sent his driver to get help. Hours later the driver returned with a Rolls Royce mechanic flown in by helicopter. The mechanic fixed the axel, said farewell and flew off. The man and his driver continued on concluding their business with no further trouble from the car. Months later, the man realized he had not been billed for the repair. Assuming the bill for helicopter delivered mechanics in the desert would be quite large, he took it upon himself to phone Rolls Royce to inquire. He recounted the desert story to the person at Rolls who received his call, including the helicopter and lengthy repair and the fact he had received no bill, to which the Rolls representative replied, ”I’m terribly sorry sir, but I think you must be mistaken…Rolls Royce axels do not break sir!”
 
Good story, and oh so true. I sort of freaked the other day when I got my new Powermac and had problems with it, and up popped Steve Jobs, fixed it and flew away, after making me sign an NDA!

Macs do have problems, for sure. But they are damn sexy, simple to use and their base set of software is phenomenal for an average user. I've recently converted from PC's to Macs (After about 10 years on a PC) and next time my family mention they're after a new computer, I will vehemently suggest Mac - it would just be so much nicer, simpler and powerful for them out of the box.
 
You gotta tell em...Macs are made out of PC's. They're made out of PC's! :evil:

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I think the "problem" comes from the intentional decision by Apple's marketing to promote Mac use as a religion. The school of Mac Evangelism, founded by Guy Kawasaki, is what has led to these flame battles much more than anything else.

Hunter Cressel of the famous "Crash Different" video is an avid Apple user, but he hates the Cult of Mac and knows full well that all computers crash, all computers have their good points and bad points, and all computers are tools meant to make life easier.

The real irony is that Mac evangelists tend to point to Microsoft as monolithic, monopolistic, dictatorial, inflexible, and demanding, but none of that could be more true of Apple and its hardcore proprietarianism and of the cult of personality around Steve Jobs.

In short, it's a fight that Apple and its users picked. Most PC users are happier just to live and let compute.
 
I'm a Mac user at home for 6 years and i'm a PC user at work, what can i say...

At home almost no crashes, very rare really, maybe a average of once in 2 months, Final Cut Pro is a incredible tool.
At work, Premiere Pro, to me looks like a beginners tool, average of 3 crashes a day on several special built pc's for use in video editing.

This is my experience, maybe others have a diferent one.
 
Avant-Hard:

There is too much religion in this debate.

I don't doubt that you've had a better experience with your mac computer but it might be too flip to chalk it up to a PC difficiency.

What unnerves me about the PC vs. Mac debate is that it is the result of a lot of misdirected hoopla. Lets be real here. Who makes Mac? Apple Computers. Who makes PCs? Everybody. But somehow this debate has been forging on, usually pitting Apple and Microsoft. Huh? Apple is a hardware company that make computers. Microsoft is a software company that makes software. How these two ever got pitted against one another is beyond me.

Granted, I'm sure there is a pretty good argument that the proprietary nature of Apple promotes better quality control. I will agree with that on some level. But to me, PCs are SO much more accessible. 3 years ago I built a system with only top quality, name-brand parts for $1600.00 bucks. At the time, this computer would have cost Dell $3500.00 bucks to make, with NO quarantee of name-brand parts. My system is STILL sexy-fast. Do I crash? Sure I do. But not often. And, that has more to do with the software program I am using. Premiere Pro is notorious for this. But I still love my PC.

Personally, I don't buy into the 'name-brand loyalty that borders on a religion' gig because of the prices they charge. Apple computers are WAY more expensive in general. They SHOULD be a top performer. I mean, if you are paying for a Rolls Royce, you should be getting a Rolls Royce.

But I still think that you can get MUCH more PC for the dollar. And to me, a company has to earn my money. Don't use your name recognition to charge more. Just give me a great product for a fair price and I will consider it. This is probably why I haven't purchased a SONY product in years.

Too much religion.
 
The Rolls Royce are not known by being top performers.
I known that many people is blind by the mac religion but i think that's not my case, i've been through several computer systems since i was a child, from Sinclair Spectrum to Commodore Amiga passing through C64 and after several years contacting and using PC's i've got one that at the time was a top machine, it was the computer that lasted the less until i dumped it for a mac. It was the best decision i could have ever made, i'm using the same computer today, with some upgrades it is still performing better and more reliable than most the systems i use at work, yes, sometimes i use G5's. I have no plans to buy a new computer in the near future.
Apple is a hardware and software company and this is the main reason of why the things work.

As i've said, other people may have other experiences. A friend of mine used to be very sceptical about macs, now he has one and is telling everyone who's going to buy a computer to buy one also.
I don't know, maybe it's the only virus that the mac has, it affects the owners and not the machine.
 
I use PC's by Dell. Always have; if I ever had any issues (albeit minor) they were user errors and not the result of the PC itself.

And that's generally the case anyway; people blame the machines when they don't do anything we don't tell them to do.
 
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