Raising the ambience of a room. What do you do?

jwing

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Okay, so admittedly, I'm still pretty new to lighting. I've been doing film for a while, but it hasn't been until more recently that I've been taking a more hands-on approach to lighting itself.

That said, I am kind of curious about how people generally like to raise the ambience of a room. I recently shot some tests using two fresnels, an Arri 650 (with diffusion) and an Arri 300. I wanted to concentrate primarily on key and fill lighting before moving into playing with back lighting; but maybe this was my problem? Because you see, I had no other lights turned on in this room, and the light fall off with fresnels is so dramatic (sorry to state the obvious), that my image appeared to have a huge vignette. I should mention also that I experimented with flood and spot controls, but regardless, everything is still so dark away from the subject.

I'm a fan of the low-key look, but it almost appeared as though my subject was sitting in complete blackness, a total void, with a spotlight just on the face. Everything else seems to fall off. I'm sure this is completely normal and expected with the nature of fresnels... but now I'm kind of curious as to how to get more of the environment lit, but without over-lighting it.

Assuming you do not have any sunlight coming through windows, do you turn overhead practicals on and color correct them? Do you point an open-faced light at the ceiling as a bounce to fill up the whole room?

I'm sure there are any number of techniques, and that no one technique is the right one, as it depends on each situation and setting. I'm just a little confused, as I've seen lighting diagrams for films where they used only fresnels--a key, fill, and a back light. But it would seem to me, based on my experience so far, that this would create a similar void, yet it doesn't. The room ambience is somehow brought up. Is this because I'm missing the back light?

Sorry if these questions seem a little dumb. I'm still learning as I go.
 
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If the ceiling is white, bouncing a 1000w off the ceiling isn't a bad start.

Depending on where your practicals are, using lights to emulate additional fill from those is one method. As is adding more practicals.

China balls can be of good use if they won't get in the way.

Overall it really depends on the situation.
 
If the ceiling is white, bouncing a 1000w off the ceiling isn't a bad start.

Depending on where your practicals are, using lights to emulate additional fill from those is one method. As is adding more practicals.

China balls can be of good use if they won't get in the way.

Overall it really depends on the situation.

True. I should mention that I'm also most interested in working with natural/available light. The problem is, though, if I'm in a room with overhead incandescents, CFLs, or standard flourescents (ugh!), I tend to turn them all off so as to not have to deal with the headache of matching color temperatures. In this case, what would most people do? Do you try to gel the overheads? Do you replace them with special types of bulbs?
 
Here is something I was playing with yesterday:

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Sorry for the wacky framing, but I did that to show the background and the way the light falls off. So, I had a key to camera left (650 w/ diffusion), 4 feet away and about 9 feet up, which added a little ambience. Then the fill (350) was to camera right, set to spot and the barn doors a little closed to give that slit of light across the wall. Shot with a 28mm lens at f/2.8.

Now, supposing that I still want a high contrast ratio, but I still want to expose the background evenly so it wouldn't just turn into a vignette, would it have been a good idea to just point a light at the ceiling? Or maybe a softbox hanging overhead?

Of course, every situation is different. I'm actually used to working with available/ambient light and open-faced fixtures, so fresnels are new to me, and with that I'm not used to so much specific, spot-like control.
 
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