QuickStream DV special pricing for DVXuser.com.

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OK, my bad. In re-reading the manual, it looks like nothing external should work in "OFF" mode. Why it worked 9 times out of eleven is beyond me.
 
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I will waffle here. ;D

In OFF and BOTH, the camera deck controls should be active. Since EXT does not work with QuickStream, the camera should behave the same way in OFF as it does in BOTH.
 
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No I didn't purchase this thing yet. I recently just looked into it. I saw the ad everyday on the corner of this site but i had no idea it was a firewire capture device. oh me.. and I was looking into the new NAB product FIRESTORE.

my real question is whether it be Quickstream, direct drive or firestore,
-well, I'm sure firestore has more features but how do I preview my edits on a monitor through these drives when I want to edit in external video mode?
I'm trying to think how it could work but it can't because these drives don't have A/V out... no? yes?
I'm trying to support tapeless aquisition all the way... and I hate my dv deck.. i hate drop outs... i hate tape. I hate my sony mini dv player...especially now that it's pulling on every tape I give it~!!!

thanks for any discussion on this.
 
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ok.. I just realized that you can still use your dvx or any camera or even a dv deck to go external. but you still need that extra step to do it! Still good that you don' t have to wear and tear any equipment- just using it for a/v out... but....

is there a less clunky way to edit in external video mode? right off the harddrive? any technology out there? are there monitors that take firewire output? or some weird combination like that to make life simpler?

:)

why is this important?
because... we all know you can't see the effect of 24p in your computer monitors. ;)
 
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dang, I'm answering my own questions today.
I realized how stupid my question was... it's irrelevant isn't it?
lol
because i still need my dv deck to output to tape for back up or.. whatever the heck i want to do it with.
my brain is way ahead into the future...
so, when are the tapeless mini-dv's 24p's out?
let's get them rollin!!!
 
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Hey Gomboy,

The plan with these drives is that you capture directly to the drive, then you plug that drive into your firewire card and edit the files directly on the drive.

But if you want to see your footage on an NTSC monitor, you'd need either a) a firewire monitor, of which I don't know whether such a thing exists, or b) a deck or camera that takes firewire in and outputs analog video.

So yes, you could go completely tapeless (except for archiving, etc.) But you'll still need a hardware device like a camera or deck or that Canopus ADVC-whatever-it-is to convert firewire data to analog video to display on your monitor.
 
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thanks Barry for your response.

Just having a clunky moment with today's clunky technology :)
but it's all going to get better I suppose.
 
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Gee, sounds like some piece of equipment. $1000 and hours of lost footage doesn't sound too appealing. I guess I'll live with tape dropouts for a while. ;D Maybe by the time the tape mechanism and heads get worn out, these drives will become reliable enough to actualy be useful. And I bet they will knock off a few bucks off that price too.
 
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I just wrote them, referencing this forum and laying out these issues. We'll see what they say and how long it takes them to reply to my email... Not holding my breath.
 
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Jarred,

How do you format the drive without erasing the software, and why would you reformat? The manual does not address this. I was under the impression that you just deleted the files in the media folder.

Perhaps a windows checkdisk would scan and lock out bad sectors and eliminate your problems?
 
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I had to reformat because the drive came corrupt :( I had to use partition manager to make it fat32 )and just erased everything. The drive put back the needed directories if I remember correctly.
 
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My God! Eleven pages that started off glowingly and ended horrifically. So in summary, if you want a portable DV/Firewire drive, what are the alternatives?

Quickstream (MCE)
Firestore (Fovus Enhancements)
CitiDISK (Shining Tech)

Any others I missed?
 
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Quickstream and CitiDisk appear to be the same product.

FireStore FS-1 is not really portable. The FS-3 is.

You missed the Laird CapDiv, the ProMax DirectDrive, the Sony DSR-DU1, and there are others... something called the DataBank, I guess, and I think I've seen more out there too.
 
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[quote author=Barry_Green link=board=Links;num=1071617666;start=150#152 date=05/21/04 at 13:57:51]Quickstream and CitiDisk appear to be the same product.

FireStore FS-1 is not really portable.  The FS-3 is.

You missed the Laird CapDiv, the ProMax DirectDrive, the Sony DSR-DU1, and there are others... something called the DataBank, I guess, and I think I've seen more out there too.[/quote]

Yes, the citidisk appears to be the same, and they have more info in their FAQs and online pdf manual. They acknowledged earlier problems with Pannys, supposedly resolved with new firmware. They say to test the record button on the camera and look for drive activity. If there is none, cycle the camera power.

This is particularly true of the SONY DCR-TRV20, but my experience indicates the Panny is plagued by this as well. I have a DVC80 as a B-roll camera, and it does the same thing. Fail rate over 40 tests is 25%. Cycling the camera power does get it to work.

For those who have come home without video, you probably did not confirm drive activity prior to recording. The QuickStream probably is reliable, if you're willing to fuss and confirm a good connection prior to filming. No grab shots here.

To boot, some of my files show up in Windows Explorer without date and time stamps, which makes me think there is a communication problem.

I am impressed that MCE overnighted a regular 3' firewire cable in an attempt to help resolve the problem, but now they are ignoring my email and phone calls. Today I got through and they told me they would call me back in 10 minutes.......right.

Now I must decide whether to live with it, or return it. Fortunately, AmEx said they will work with me, if I have problems.
 
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Barry, I though I had seen where the FS-3 weighs 2.5 pounds. That's alot of extra weight compared, and it is expensive too. The QS in concept is great for portability and editing speed.
 
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Yeah, the FS-3 is a different product design, meant to mount on a broadcast camera, and featuring hot-swappable quick-change drives. But it's also 3x the price of a Quickstream/CitiDisk as well.

Sony's DU1 is probably the overall "best" unit, but it's expensive too.
 
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I actually had Sony analize the Data stream of the DV file the Quickstream records because it would act up in Vegas 4. they told me there was alot of garbeled info in there, but they did update vegas 5 to accept the files. I think the Quickstream could become a great product with just a minor Firmware upgrade.

At any rate, I emailed them 3 weeks ago to find out what the hell was going on and nobody is responding.
 
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Jarred,

I ordered one sometime ago and after mega e-mails & excuses (very vague comminuaction from them), I finally got the darn thing. They accepted Fed-X money from me, but 4 weeks later isn't exactly Fed-Xing. Know what I mean?

I also ordered one of the batteries. The Quickstream showed up, but no battery. Yes, it is on the invoice and I got charged for it. Sooo, I fired off another e-mail. We'll see how they deal with it.

As for the unit itself... I have only captured a small amount of footage, but it does seem to work fine so far. Time will tell.
 
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yeah I put a warning on the review page to contact them before ordering.. hopefully you got a good one :)
 
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