QuickStream DV special pricing for DVXuser.com.

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I put this question to MCE, and they said they dont recommend it, because there are very few aftermarket drives that relaibly can capture DV streams for a sustained period, remember, there isnt the buffer's etc that your laptop have. However, they didnt specifically state that it cant be done, but I imagine it would void your warranty. If you do attempt to do it, dont by a cheap drive.
 
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hmmmm, a standard DV stream is 25MBit/s, makes a bit more than 3 MB per second. All 2,5" drives available today sustain at least 10 MBps for read and write, cache should also be no problem.
A few years ago some drives needed thermal recalibration every hour or so, which caused dropped frames, but this is also not a issue today anymore.

It might be an idea to purchase a quickstream with the lowest disc capacity today and install a bigger drive after warranty has expired. I did the same with the drive in my ipod recently.
 
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Your right.... if the drive was siting on your desk. Remember this thing is portable and probally moving around, specially with handheld shots, which increases error correction etc of the drive and kills your effective throughput.

Bandwidth isn't the biggest factor, RPM's of the drive is, older drives that spin at 3000rpms are just too slow, and the newer 5400 rpm drives are fast enough, but more sensitive to vibration... you might say.. Hey, i saw a 7200rpm drive... yes.. then you gotta look at heat issues as well as battery life.  

Its not as simple of an upgrade as you would think it would be.

At any rate, I am sure that as long as you bought a high quality fast drive, it would work. Me, on the other hand, dont like the idea of screwing with it. Sure, if I had an ipod and the drive crashed and I lost all my Micheal Jackson albums it would suck a little, but I can just go download them again...

but for me to loose 5 hours of video forget about it... not worth the risk to me.
 
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i wonder if we could talk the makers of the quickstream into making another slightly smaller device that simply connects the firewire signal to a firewire signal reciever wirelessly. sorta like wireless networking, only it just tranmits firewire i/o wirelessly. then you could capture directly from the cam in digital format to a nearby computer.. laptop would be nice. instantly review your shots at full res , and keep what you like. toss the rest- would be a nice setup. no cords. no tapes. straight digital- could easily install up to a 512 mb ram stick for buffer memory. sounds good to me .
 
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wireless might be a problem though... The fastest wireless technology available today is 802.11g with a nominal bitrate of 54 mbit/s. Toss in error correction and protocol overhead and you are down to half of it as net data rate.
This would be enough for a dv stream with 25 Mbit/s theoretically but keep in mind that virtually no LAN technology today has Quality of Service features which would guarantee the bandwith.
Let alone the reliability issues of a radio connection (reflections, interference, the microwave oven of the catering people).
 
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In the next 6 months there will be 802.11n, which hits 100mbit/s.. which is kinda cool but as all the points joachim pointed out... good luck getting a decent signal for DV use, unelss they streamed mpeg4 like the JVC cameras can via wifi.
 
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It's a shame that it cannot record in Matrox DV-AVI format. For Matrox users that means we will have to record in VFW-AVI format and then use file conversion software to make the transition. It kind of defeats the quickstream drive's convienence asset. Also, can the drive be formated in NTFS?

Regards,

Mark
 
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drive cannot be NTFS, because NTFS isnt compatible with Apple and the drive is dual format.

As for the MAtrox DV format.. are you sure the .DV format wont work with MAtrox?
 
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thanks for the review jared!  i just ordered two 4.5 hour drives and will pick them up on friday in irvine.  i didn't realize they are in my neck of the woods. :)  my first project w/ these will be in april where i will be doing a 2 camera shoot for a 2 1/2 hour theatre production.  wish me luck! :)
 
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wow.. 2 :)

Yeah the guys over at MCE sound pretty cool.

Your project sounds cool.. just think you save 5 hours of rendering right off the bat heh heh heh.
 
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Thanks for all the good work jared. I spoke with Ben by telephone today & a drive is on the way to Norway :-)
 
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Does the Quickstream DV work with both PAL and NTSC versions of the DVX100 ??
 
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Hey Barry... I rebooted the Quickstream for the first time this morning, and the audio probem went away believe it or not.
 
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Well, now that's good news! So, are you achieving 100% Vegas compatibility?
 
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If you want to clear the drive by copying it to another, how olng does it take?
 
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I did this last night.. took a few minutes to dump. And saved me 3 hours of digitizing :)
 
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That's great/ I want to be able to make tape backups after the fact on one computer while editing on another. I can't always record simultaneously to tape, since I would lose material during tape changes.
 
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Hello all,

Ok, I'm not a DVX user, my cam is a GL2. But, hey, hope I'm welcomed :D. I've been investigating on buying a quickstream drive.

My main concern is power, I usually do weddings, and will need at least 5 hours of power. Is there a way to power this thing via my DC belt, would some type of adaptor work ??? Or please correct me if this thing can draw power directly via the firewire and let me record as long as I have enough Gl2 batteries?

Thanks for your help guys :)
emilio olivares
monterrey, mexico
 
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[quote author=Emilio Olivares link=board=Links;num=1071617666;start=50#59 date=02/08/04 at 18:22:31]Hello all,

Ok, I'm not a DVX user, my cam is a GL2. But, hey, hope I'm welcomed  :D. I've been investigating on buying a quickstream drive.

My main concern is power, I usually do weddings, and will need at least 5 hours of power. Is there a way to power this thing via my DC belt, would some type of adaptor work ??? Or please correct me if this thing can draw power directly via the firewire and let me record as long as I have enough Gl2 batteries?

Thanks for your help guys :)
emilio olivares
monterrey, mexico[/quote]

Check the site out. They have 3 hour batteries available. You can use third party batteries with the right connector, providing the voltage is between 6 an 18 volts (I believe). Read Jarreds review and check out the site. Your questions are answered there.
 
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Scott, yes the quickstream (quite incredibly) has a built in wide range voltage controller so you can plug most voltages from almost any source into the quickstream to recharge it. They also just released a 3 hour extended battery that attatches to the drive.

I just came off a shoot this weekend where I used the drive for about 8 hours a day, and never had the thing die.

All I did was every once in awhile I plugged the included adapter into the drive to recharge it (doing so doesnt stop it's operation, meaning you can plug the cable in while its recording) This wasn't difficult because we where pretty locked off and it wasnt run and gun.
 
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