hello my name is kenji and im writing to you from japan this year ill be making a movie. it will be my first movie so i want to make it right i was wondering do people make the movie first and then put the music after when its in editing. or do they make the movie first with the music already in mind and already know the timing of the song to fit that scene . becouse for me i dont know what music i want to use yet until maybe while im editing it .and how do you get the timing perfect with the scene and the music togather . im sorry if this is a stupid question but i hope some one can help me . thank you for your time
question about music and timing
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Welcome to the board, Kenji!
If you are making a music video, then obviously you shoot with a specific tune in mind.
Most of the time I want to shoot a story. I may have in mind the type of music that I will be looking for to use in particular places, but I don't pick out any music until my rough cut of the movie is done. Then I mostly play with the music to get it to cut to the picture, although sometimes I'll change my video cuts a little bit to get it to fit the music.
If you are making a music video, then obviously you shoot with a specific tune in mind.
Most of the time I want to shoot a story. I may have in mind the type of music that I will be looking for to use in particular places, but I don't pick out any music until my rough cut of the movie is done. Then I mostly play with the music to get it to cut to the picture, although sometimes I'll change my video cuts a little bit to get it to fit the music.
hi joe thanks for the quick reply you are a great man . the movie we are making is like a horror movie . so what if i have like a 20 sec scene and the composition of the song is like 15 sec or longer like 30 sec then is there a program that can time streach them to fit in the scene or do i have to cut the movie so it will fit .once again thanks for your time
There are fancier and better ways to do it, but my quick way is as follows (assuming I only have 15 and 30 second clips available for the 20 sec. sceene:
If I have a 15 second music clip, I put it on the timeline and expand the timeline until I can see the waveforms well. I figure out where the measures start (counting the beats-one and two and three and four and) and I try to find a part of the music that I can cut and repeat. I cut this part out, paste it in where appropriate, and blend the cuts together (crossfade).
When using a 30 second music clip for a 20 second scene, I will listen and see if the clip has a natural 20 second clip contained in it. If it does, I simply use that 20 seconds. If not, I look for portions that can be cut to make it a 20 second clip. Sometimes it sounds OK to just fade out when the scene fades.
If it is an action scene and I want to cut to the beat, then I work both the video and the audio to get them to cut together.
Now if it's something like a trailer for the movie, I choose the cuts in the video to match the audio.
Hope I was clear.
If I have a 15 second music clip, I put it on the timeline and expand the timeline until I can see the waveforms well. I figure out where the measures start (counting the beats-one and two and three and four and) and I try to find a part of the music that I can cut and repeat. I cut this part out, paste it in where appropriate, and blend the cuts together (crossfade).
When using a 30 second music clip for a 20 second scene, I will listen and see if the clip has a natural 20 second clip contained in it. If it does, I simply use that 20 seconds. If not, I look for portions that can be cut to make it a 20 second clip. Sometimes it sounds OK to just fade out when the scene fades.
If it is an action scene and I want to cut to the beat, then I work both the video and the audio to get them to cut together.
Now if it's something like a trailer for the movie, I choose the cuts in the video to match the audio.
Hope I was clear.
ChrisHurn
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Kenji, welcome aboard....or should I say よこうそ、けんじさん！
I just wanted to say good luck on that film. You know, there are many composers out there who would be willing to write music for you, and you could get it done for free. What you would do then, is just send the scenes/film to the composer and they would time it up perfectly for you. Just a possibility. I write music, and if you need some done you can email me (chrishurn@gmail.com).
-Chris
I just wanted to say good luck on that film. You know, there are many composers out there who would be willing to write music for you, and you could get it done for free. What you would do then, is just send the scenes/film to the composer and they would time it up perfectly for you. Just a possibility. I write music, and if you need some done you can email me (chrishurn@gmail.com).
-Chris
Dave_Fisk
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Typically music is done in the post process. The composer will get picture (hopefully picture lock) with a timecode burn in, and compose from there. I've done this several times (i'm no composer, by the way, it was just for my projects in school). The composer will use the timecode for cue points, and then go from there.
-Dave
-Dave