Question about AVI Default(uncompressed) rendering

Cucuzza15

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Is is possible for me to disable interlacing in this format, because it takes off the quality of the movie a lot. And the reason i enjoy rendering it in this format is because i'm going to put the video on dvd with the best quality, but the interlacing is the only thing that takes away from that. Can someone please help me =)
 
You set the field order to "None (progressive)." But by default, the uncompressed AVI will take on the characteristics of your project, so if you're editing on a progressive timeline, it should default to that.

What's the timebase of your footage?

Also, rendering an uncompressed AVI is not your best option for going to DVD. DVDs are always MPEG-2, and whatever you feed your authoring program (DVD Architect?), it will be converted to MPEG-2. If you give it an uncompressed AVI, the authoring process will take longer.

Better to export a DVD-ready MPEG-2. Less hassle in authoring, and it will already be in the highest quality for DVD.

If you want a progressive DVD, then your option is a 24p DVD (assuming NTSC).
 
whats the difference between NTSC DV 24p (inserting 2-3 pulldown) and NTSC DV 24p (inserting 2-3-3-2 pulldown) ? which one has beta quality =)
 
Neither. The quality is the same. The difference between the two is this and this alone:

If you intend to bring what you render back into a 24p timeline (and this includes if you're printing to tape with the intent of recapturing for editing in 24p), then use 2-3-3-2 pulldown.

If you do not plan to bring what you render back into a 24p timeline, then use 2-3 pulldown.
 
David > but lets say someone wanted highest quality on a dvd but we have to edit it and add effects etc. Still capturing to Mpeg 2 is the best option within vegas ? Lets say hypothetically one has shot on the dvx102b pal progressive. So we have 25 full frames.
Assuming final output is to dvd (Progressive widescreen Dvd pal) and we need pristine quality.
1.What format should we capture as onto the timeline.
2.What should be the project settings be.
3.After editing, effects, etc. We should render out to ? What format ?
 
You don't want to edit later from an MPEG-2 source (it'll be compressed and the quality will be poor). If you want to put a 24pA clip on DVD and edit later, you'd render an uncompressed AVI with 2-3-3-2 pulldown, as described above.
 
No, you shouldn't ever capture to MPEG-2 (and I don't think the capture program even has that option.)

But when you go to DVD, render from Vegas as MPEG-2; most of us are using DVD Architect, so use those templates. (They'll work for most other DVD authoring apps, too.)

Rendering from Vegas as DV or uncompressed AVI doesn't gain you anything when you're authoring the DVD except for a longer prepare time.
 
Hi, I was asking mainly on import/capture options. I definitely understand about the recoding process that will go into getting any footage to be encoded twice down the pipeline. Im mainly looking at import options and settings of the project ??
 
Project settings never matter to capture.

DV is captured as DV and put into an AVI wrapper. There's no other way to capture. The only setting which affects the codec in the capture program settings is "Use Microsoft DV Codec," and it's unchecked at default, which is what you want. You're better off using Vegas's DV codec. But either way, it's still DV -- not MPEG, not WMV, etc. . . .

So, just stick wtih defaults. In fact, until you really know what you're doing, that's what you should always do.
 
David > I have a laptop with a built in firewire port. I tried capturing from a sony handycam using this laptop. I didnt get a clear video. The resolution was only about 320x220 or something akin. Why is this happenng ? Is there any special software one has to install before capturing ? This is an actual firewire port. Why isnt it capturing in DV Avi 720x576 ???
 
Vegas .mpg quality versus DVD Arch .mpg render quality

Vegas .mpg quality versus DVD Arch .mpg render quality

I just tried several DVD trials and found that subtle motion articfacts exist in vegas avi files that are output (rendered) as .npg and then placed in DVD Arch for burning (at .mpg of course).

However, no such subtle motion visual artifcats exists when rendering an avi timeline in Vegas in AVI and then placing that avi file in DVD Arch for DVD burning (at .mpg of course).

Thus, the .mpg render process seems to me more effective within DVD Arch then within Vegas.

Pat
 
Patrick > First off your first line says there are subtle motion artifacts. But are you noticing those artifacts in the .mpg file thats coming our of vegas render or are you meaning that you notice these artifacts after this .mpg goes into DVDA and then comes out as a dvd ? There might be a possibility that DVD arch is rerendering the .mpg (unless you chose one of the DVD Arch render templates under the mpeg render menu in which case there is no rerender). Now basically rerendering a .mpg would cause artifacts due to the architecture of mpeg (maybe some slight blockiness etc). AVIs are anyday smoother than an Mpeg so its a case of a clean AVI getting rendered only once into .mpg (which is quite a dirty compression technique that fools your eye for clarity). But imagine this tricky compression getting render over again twice. But i hope ive not misunderstood your explanation.
 
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Patrick Forestell said:
I just tried several DVD trials and found that subtle motion articfacts exist in vegas avi files that are output (rendered) as .npg and then placed in DVD Arch for burning (at .mpg of course).

However, no such subtle motion visual artifcats exists when rendering an avi timeline in Vegas in AVI and then placing that avi file in DVD Arch for DVD burning (at .mpg of course).

Thus, the .mpg render process seems to me more effective within DVD Arch then within Vegas.

Pat

Are you rendering your audio and video separately?
 
plainman007 said:
David > I have a laptop with a built in firewire port. I tried capturing from a sony handycam using this laptop. I didnt get a clear video. The resolution was only about 320x220 or something akin. Why is this happenng ? Is there any special software one has to install before capturing ? This is an actual firewire port. Why isnt it capturing in DV Avi 720x576 ???

This shouldn't happen -- are you sure you're capturing from tape and not a memory stick?
 
Absolutely. Its a normal sony handycam. Its the first time i was using my firewire port. I connected and captured using windows movie maker. Or someother application. But captured at dv format.
 
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