Question about 24P and timelines

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TRIPxCORE

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Let's say I shoot something in 24p on a DVX and want to edit it in Vegas. I have read some things about people saying how you must load your video onto a 24p timeline and then export it as 24p as well and blah blah blah.

To say the least, I am very confused. I am a novice with all this so can someone please explain that to me in easy terms?

With what I have shot recently, I loaded the video onto my NLE program, put different scenes onto my timeline and had the NLE put it all together for a finished product. All this talk about 24p timeline and export as 24p is confusing me.

Thanks!
 
If you shot in 24p, open the "project properties" window, select the "match" icon on the right of the dialog, and select one of your clips. Vegas will then auto-configure itself to use the right 24p timeline and resolution.

You see, on Vegas it's important to tell the editor what kind of source footage you got, otherwise, if you edit with the wrong project properties, you will get wrong output with worse quality than it could be.
 
Eugenia Loli-Queru said:
If you shot in 24p, open the "project properties" window, select the "match" icon on the right of the dialog, and select one of your clips. Vegas will then auto-configure itself to use the right 24p timeline and resolution.

You see, on Vegas it's important to tell the editor what kind of source footage you got, otherwise, if you edit with the wrong project properties, you will get wrong output with worse quality than it could be.
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Thanks!
 
TRIPxCORE said:
Let's say I shoot something in 24p on a DVX and want to edit it in Vegas. I have read some things about people saying how you must load your video onto a 24p timeline and then export it as 24p as well and blah blah blah.

To say the least, I am very confused. I am a novice with all this so can someone please explain that to me in easy terms?

With what I have shot recently, I loaded the video onto my NLE program, put different scenes onto my timeline and had the NLE put it all together for a finished product. All this talk about 24p timeline and export as 24p is confusing me.

Thanks!
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My tutorial here explains everything about bringing DVX 24p material into Vegas.

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=46677
 
Eugenia Loli-Queru said:
You see, on Vegas it's important to tell the editor what kind of source footage you got, otherwise, if you edit with the wrong project properties, you will get wrong output with worse quality than it could be.
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This isn't actually correct. One of the strengths of Vegas was always that you could put any footage on any timeline and then render it out any way you wanted, and things would turn out just fine.

You can have 24p footage on any timeline and then render as 24p, and it'll still turn out fine.

It's only when you're working with certain kinds of footage and rendering as something OTHER than what the footage is that you MAY have to check resample settings, etc., or you may not get exactly what you want -- but for the most part, you can drop anything into any timeline and render as anything you want and you'll be fine.

I do not know if that was always true of Vegas Movie Studio, because I never used it for anything other than tests, but it has always been true of the full version of Vegas since at least version 3, and I suspect all the way back to version 1.
 
David Jimerson said:
This isn't actually correct. One of the strengths of Vegas was always that you could put any footage on any timeline and then render it out any way you wanted, and things would turn out just fine.

You can have 24p footage on any timeline and then render as 24p, and it'll still turn out fine.

It's only when you're working with certain kinds of footage and rendering as something OTHER than what the footage is that you MAY have to check resample settings, etc., or you may not get exactly what you want -- but for the most part, you can drop anything into any timeline and render as anything you want and you'll be fine.

I do not know if that was always true of Vegas Movie Studio, because I never used it for anything other than tests, but it has always been true of the full version of Vegas since at least version 3, and I suspect all the way back to version 1.
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Thank you as well! :thumbsup:
 
>you could put any footage on any timeline and then render it out any way you >wanted, and things would turn out just fine.

Yes, Vegas can compensate, resample, and what not. But this is not what I would recommend to anyone. I would recommend to always have the right project properties to REFLECT the source footage (assuming you only use one kind of format each time), and then, at the end, you export the way you want to. So basically, do the editing in the right project properties, and only use exporting to change the look/fps/whatever. The main reason for this is that Vegas will work faster during editing when the right project properties are set. When you force a 1080i video to resample during editing for example, you might lose as much as 25% of preview speed.
 
But it doesn't resample according to the timeline. It resamples according to the output format. It doesn't do anything to the footage until you render it, except for on-the-fly preview purposes and only at Good or Best preview settings.

If you have 24p footage on a 60i timeline and then render as 24p, it won't resample the 24p footage at all, because it's already 24p.

Same if you have PAL on an NTSC timeline and then render as PAL -- no resampling.

But yes, you should always match your timeline to your footage. I'm just saying that Vegas is exceptionally good at doing the right thing your footage, no matter the timeline or the render settings.

As for difficulty with editing on different timeline settings, considering that Vegas is one of the few NLEs which will allow you to do it at all without rendering the footage to conform to the timeline, I think it does a pretty stellar job at on-the-fly previewing.
 
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