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you are right about it. They work very well when you need something on a rush (they seem have everything on stock) and you know exactly what kind of gear you want it. I wouldn't go over there to ask for advice between X or Y. Totally different with Pro-Sound, you can go and sit with Rich and he will advise you about the best gear for your needs, no trying to sell you the piece he will make a better profit of
 
man, okay what exactly is the deal with sound room and oktava?

oktava is a russian mic manufacturer but oktava.com sends you instantly to sound room.com where there are huge promos for the 'sound for film dvd' by the mods here and the oktava mk012 is also full of references to dvxuser.

thats all good and cross promotion is great... but this is pretty heavy linkage

especially given that the mk012 is now twice the price of the original posts here that got me interested and especially since nobody else seems to carry it (and sometimes barely know of it) - i cant find it on b&h or tew or so on...

it just kind of looks like a giant marketing thing to sell oktavas through the forum. and outside this forum i am not seeing a lot to back up the strong reviews i see on here. don't get me wrong, i would be thrilled to see some outside support and verification - but i began this whole thing by simply trying to follow the advice on here as my starting point and when i do, i run into stumbling blocks
 
pernell91,
The quick history, as I heard it anyway. End of WWII Russians get part of Germany. Schoeps's factory is in the East side. The designers flee but the plans get left behind. The designers/ engineers start up again in the west and the Russians start making mics from the plans left behind.
What I know, Oktava started showing up in Guitar Center stores in the late 90's, great reviews but a bit dodgy on the QC. I bought a large diaphragm one in 96. Somewhere in the mid 00's (boy it's strange to type that) a squabble broke out and the guy importing them decided he could make more money by having the mic's knocked off in China. He claimed he owned the name in the west and so could stick it on whatever he wanted. Somewhere in there GC started carrying the chinese knock off versions. Law suits flew around and bla bla bla. As it stands I think the Sound Room is the only one importing the Russian mic. There is a site by the british guy who's making the chinese knockoffs that is called something like Oktava.uk or something. The Sound Room imports and does a QC check on all the mics it sells. Your other option is any number of folks selling them on eBay and such that claim to be selling the Russian version but??? There is also a site "Oktavamod.com" (I think but it's at least close) that modifies Oktava microphones (they will mod both the chinese and Russian versions).
If you can't find a boat load of hits with Google on Oktava you mistyped or aren't connected to the internet. If your wondering why the price has gone up I have three words for you. Bush, deficit, Exchange rate (maybe that's four words). Our economy has tanked with a huge deficit and the dollar has had the snot kicked out of it in the exchange rates. Plus of course shipping is through the roof with current fuel prices.

The Sound Room if you spent any time looking around sells a number of different mics and Oktava's are at the bottom of the price ladder.
 
Noiz2 said:
pernell91,
The quick history, as I heard it anyway. End of WWII Russians get part of Germany. Schoeps's factory is in the East side. The designers flee but the plans get left behind. The designers/ engineers start up again in the west and the Russians start making mics from the plans left behind.
What I know, Oktava started showing up in Guitar Center stores in the late 90's, great reviews but a bit dodgy on the QC. I bought a large diaphragm one in 96. Somewhere in the mid 00's (boy it's strange to type that) a squabble broke out and the guy importing them decided he could make more money by having the mic's knocked off in China. He claimed he owned the name in the west and so could stick it on whatever he wanted. Somewhere in there GC started carrying the chinese knock off versions. Law suits flew around and bla bla bla. As it stands I think the Sound Room is the only one importing the Russian mic. There is a site by the british guy who's making the chinese knockoffs that is called something like Oktava.uk or something. The Sound Room imports and does a QC check on all the mics it sells. Your other option is any number of folks selling them on eBay and such that claim to be selling the Russian version but??? There is also a site "Oktavamod.com" (I think but it's at least close) that modifies Oktava microphones (they will mod both the chinese and Russian versions).
If you can't find a boat load of hits with Google on Oktava you mistyped or aren't connected to the internet. If your wondering why the price has gone up I have three words for you. Bush, deficit, Exchange rate (maybe that's four words). Our economy has tanked with a huge deficit and the dollar has had the snot kicked out of it in the exchange rates. Plus of course shipping is through the roof with current fuel prices.

The Sound Room if you spent any time looking around sells a number of different mics and Oktava's are at the bottom of the price ladder.
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interesting story

i only mentioned the price because of all the items in the "MATTINSTL" package, it is the only one that is not in the same ballpark as the prices listed in the original post

anyway, informative post
 
oktava been sold in euro so the price is stable worldwide for the last 5 years .
the us$ is half what it was 2 years ago - that's why you see different price these days .
oktava are marketing directly in Europe and so in USA threw small number of dealers with musician agenda in mind , not really film related as it number is zero if you compare to home recording market ,that's why you don't see these in b&h ( you don't see allot of stuff in b&h and much less on trew audio:-))

the hip for the octavas didn't come from dvx users but mostly from musicians who discovered this mic , later was adapted by sound mixer community as cheap substitution for mics which cost 5-10 times more for use in places where you don't want put in geperty your better mics .later where discovered by Indy filmmakers who established it is as good worth mics for these who cant afford something better , and sorry there are allot of better mics .

the linkage to dvd is probably as one of the creator have used this mic extensivly and i guess show it on the dvd. ( i didn't see it so really don't know).
as i remember the sound room made special discount for dvx user AFTER that good lines where written here and not before as jester to these who participate here .

oktava is a very good mic for beginner , has luck of low cut filtering, so not really good for someone who don't use mixer.
 
again very informative

this is a cool history lesson

if you know of one off the top of your head, do you recommend any mic in particular that does have low cut filtering and is not completely out of the oktava ballpark in price range?

anyway thanks for taking the time
 
i already recommended you one , i guess you skipped over
check for
my chiniz friends on this forum
you get quit allot for 250 us$
and stay away from the baby ball overpriced **** from rycote
you can buy double foam from olson ( windtech) with fur coming over , work just fine if you need to go outside
 
If I were in the market for a cheap hyper I would definately get Oleg's mics. The Oktava was an amazing buy a few years back when they could be had for about $150.

Today I think Oleg has a much better deal.

Cheers
 
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