Producer, executive producer and the rights of the movie question

Joshua_G

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A brief introduction to clarify the background of my question.

I'm 70 y.o., retired electronics technician. In my 20's I took some non-academic courses (movie history, editing and script writing), worked as assistant director in a feature, assistant cinematographer and cinematographer in few documentaries.

Few months ago I encountered an amazing true story about seemingly impossible coincidences. The story, or actually few similar stories told by the same person (retired military and police general), dictate making a documentary out of them. I have a personal emotional motivation to make this movie, since it indicates that 'there may something up there, beyond blind coincidences'.

So I embarked on producing and directing it. So far there was one shooting day, to which I hired a professional cinematographer and audio man and rented two Canon C300 cameras with the list of accompanying gear as listed by the two pros. Basically it was a reunion (after 41 years) of the 3 main persons involved in the main chain of events.

Visually, what I have, as a strict documentary, is 'talking heads' and some stills. Visually it is very poor for my aim to make a really appealing movie. So, from the onset of the idea about the movie, I knew it should be a docu-drama, when some events are enacted by actors.

The one day shooting done so far isn't enough, even not for a strict documentary, let alone docu-drama. So I'm preparing a kind of trailer and a rough cut of the main events, to present to potential sponsors. There are few such bodies in my country, sponsoring and giving partial finances to documentaries.

Alas, some of the potential sponsors require presenting a budget, along with the appeal for sponsoring. There is no way I can make a budget, I can do almost everything else on my own, but not a budget. For this I need an experienced producer. Before approaching potential producers, my concerns at this stage are maintaining the rights for the movie, legal and artistic.

From the info I gathered so far, the accepted state of affairs is that the producer holds the rights of the film, while he can hire and fire everyone else, including the director. I'm not willing to give that power over this particular movie to anyone else.

What to do? Remain the producer and hire executive producer? Hire a producer and have a legal contract with him that I'm the sole owner of rights of the movie? Any other suggested solution?
 
From the info I gathered so far, the accepted state of affairs is that the producer holds the rights of the film, while he can hire and fire everyone else, including the director. I'm not willing to give that power over this particular movie to anyone else.

What to do? Remain the producer and hire executive producer? Hire a producer and have a legal contract with him that I'm the sole owner of rights of the movie? Any other suggested solution?

You've already taken on a producer/director role so the only way anyone can 'fire' you is if you sign away your control/ownership of the project to another party. If all you need is someone to draft a budget for you then just hire someone to draft a budget for you. You don't have to bring someone on as a partner, you can just hire them as an employee or contractor.
 
You need hire a line producer... like myself...

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all kidding aside... find a line producer who can help you do the budget...
 
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Thank you.

You've already taken on a producer/director role so the only way anyone can 'fire' you is if you sign away your control/ownership of the project to another party.


Should I bring in another producer with the 'producer of the movie' title, that one will become the producer, with all the meaning attached to that title/role.

If all you need is someone to draft a budget for you then just hire someone to draft a budget for you. You don't have to bring someone on as a partner, you can just hire them as an employee or contractor.


I need someone not only to draft the budget but also to take care of all the finances aspects. Finances are the area I'm not good at all with.
Furthermore, before there will be sponsor(s), I don't have a penny left to hire anyone.
 
Should I bring in another producer with the 'producer of the movie' title, that one will become the producer, with all the meaning attached to that title/role.

You could, but I wouldn't share the reigns with someone unless they brought something huge to the table (like a ton of money to finance the project).

I need someone not only to draft the budget but also to take care of all the finances aspects. Finances are the area I'm not good at all with.
Furthermore, before there will be sponsor(s), I don't have a penny left to hire anyone.

By taking care of all the finance aspects do you mean someone to go out and rustle up all the money or someone to manage the money that's been rustled up? Those are typically two different jobs.

I think part of the confusion/problem is that the title 'producer' isn't very well defined. A director directs. An editor edits. A producer... might have create input or they might not. They might bring a lot of financing with them or they might not. It's a very vague title.

Here's a run down of what a Line Producer does. Is this the kind of help you are looking for?
http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/line-producer1.htm
 
Hi adkimery,
Thank you.

I don't need the producer to get the money for the project, I need him/her to manage the money that will come in from sponsors.
However managing the money includes both above the line and below the line budgets.
That is, on top of the line producer duties and job, he/she should also allocate salaries (and/or percentage of future revenues) to the writer, director, initial producer (all are me), editor and post (possibly me), composer and oneself.

The budget allocation be should done fully professionally, since each sponsor gives certain amount of money as a certain percentage of the overall budget and receives the same percentage of future revenues.
So managing the budget should be done in such a way that I will see some money from it, should the movie be successful.
I didn't embark the project in order to make money, but I don't want that only others will see some money from my labor (and possible creativity), should the movie be successfull.

To all my American friends, sorry, that producer, or executive producer, or line producer, must be an Israeli, familiar with the local rates and conditions.
 
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