Pro 2.0 and Vista

cmostech

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I just got Vista x64 and load my Premiere on it and it comes up everything looking good but i restart and It will not come up (premiere) The load screen comes up for about 5 sec then goes away. I reloaded 5 times I'm even trying the trial version. any ideas?
 
Vista 64 Bit works fine with the entire Adobe Production suite, i assume you have the 32 bit installed.
 
I agree with RSbush. It may work fine on the surface but there could be major issues that we are currently unaware of that could cause you downtime in the future.

Waiting for a patch is the best option. If you have already installed Vista, good luck to you. I hope it works fine. Be on the lookout for a patch though and install it as soon as it is available.
 
Good I bumped into this thread. I was considering vista to maximize premiere's potential (so I was told in another thread) and I was worried about vista being so new. What would be the main proven advantages for premiere users to vista over XP? Another question I have is: is vista as bad as they say if you download movies, software and stuff? Cough cough 'cause I have a friend of a friend...
 
No. It's not bad. It really has nothing truely that can harm you. Basically what they are doing is renaming Windows Genuine as a "downloading thief catcher" which it never has been successful with. This rumor has been undeniably debunked now that Vista has been cracked...

http://digg.com/security/Windows_Vista_Activation_Permanently_Cracked_Proof

:happy:

But no, as of right now I would hold off on the Vista upgrade until we have the thumbs up from Adobe. As of right now there is no advantage from XP to Vista except it looks cooler. What you should really be worrying about is 32bit or 64 bit processors and operating systems.

Do you have a 64 it processor? If not then you can never use more than 2 gigs of ram for any given program which sucks a big one if you are an AE junkie like my friend who does all our post effects. We are getting a quadcore 64 bit machine tomorrow though! :)
 
I have an AMD dual 64 bit...Would imply that I would be able to use 4GB ram while working with premiere+vista?
 
Premiere works fine in Vista

Premiere works fine in Vista

I have been using Premiere pro and Vista Ultimate 32 Bits without any issues. I thin that it works better.
 
hmm, I just bought a system with vista ultimate, I don't see any option to upgrade to vista 64, how do I do this?

Is it a free upgrade to 64? or do I need to buy something? or is ultimate always 64?
 
I agree, dvx_yaaaaaay. But, for the sake of argument, Vista has a classic mode too.

And as for answering the question at hand...

No, it's not free to upgrade to 64 bit. It's a whole 'nother beast. You have to choose 64 bit edition when you purchase Vista (or XP for that matter).
 
ChrisLyon said:
I agree, dvx_yaaaaaay. But, for the sake of argument, Vista has a classic mode too.

And as for answering the question at hand...

No, it's not free to upgrade to 64 bit. It's a whole 'nother beast. You have to choose 64 bit edition when you purchase Vista (or XP for that matter).
Incorrect, Most Ultimate disks (unless it was an upgrade) will have a x86 Installer, and a X64 installer when you boot up.

(i know mine did)

Taken from Compusa.com
Note: Windows Vista Ultimate ships with 32-bit and 64-bit DVD
 
Ah, I see. In that case, check your OEM disk and start an installation and see if you have the option to create a 64 bit install. Now, the thing is you cant upgrade to 64 bit. You have to start all over.
 
dvx_yaaaaaay said:
why waste ram on vista? xp in classic mode is where it's at.

I just upgraded to vista 32-bit. Not only does it just look cooler, but as a suprise it is faster. Although it does take up more memory, I have 3 gigs of ram--so 1 gig for vista and 2gigs for applications.
 
Hmm next question, how do you know if you have a 64bit processor? Intel doesn't seem to advertise it anywhere, I even have a friend who works pretty high up at Intel and he had no clue ha!! Dell doesn't even mention it for it's high end systems.

I have a Intel Core 2 duo Processor T7200... Any clue if that's 64 or 32 bit? Do they come in both? sorry for getting so off topic.
 
i believe all core duos are 64 bit.

anyway.. back to the main issue of this thread. the issue is likely that PPRO needs to be given administrative rights. if you right click the actual .exe of the program , or use the program manager and right clik it there, you can designate that the program always runs in adminitrator mode.

as well, i dont believe you need to run bista in 64 bit in order to use more than 2 gigs of ram for programs. you should be able to use the 32 bit version and use your ram much the same as you can with XP pro. the 2 gig limit is really only a limitation of XP home and below.

i intend to run the 32 bit version once Adobe gives the go ahead, simply because there is a great lack of 64 bit drivers, and the speedfactor should be the same running either 32 or 64. 64 bit really only gives added security which is something most desgnated editing machines do not really need to deal with.

one thing that any vista user will appreciate is that you can plug in a cheap USB flash drive and designate it as video RAM. it actually does make an appreciable difference in overall display of video editing FPS and rendering time.
 
Neil Rowe said:
the 2 gig limit is really only a limitation of XP home and below.

Actually it's a problem with XP Pro as well. I added 1.5 GB to my 2 GB setup and After Effect will only recognize 2 GB.
 
I was considering vista to maximize premiere's potential

If you want to maximize your potential then I would suggest sticking with XP Pro. It's more stable (at the moment), has all the driver support you need, and uses less RAM. Unless you're doing some crazy 2K/4K stuff 2gigs is more than enough. Keep in mind that while 64bit Vista can access more RAM it is actually slower in performance (from simply going 32->64bit - not counting the other ways Vista is slower). Benchmarks confirm this.

Not only does it just look cooler, but as a suprise it is faster.

Yes and no. Vista, based on your computer usage habits automatically loads your most commonly opened programs on start up (which incidentally makes start up longer) so they seem to open faster. Actual system performance in, say, rendering has actually dropped. And if you use any software that requires OpenGL acceleration (MagicBullet2, 3D software etc) your system is going to grind to a halt because Microsoft removed all OpenGL support. Until third parties come out with their own drivers (eg nVidia, ATI/AMD) OpenGL has to be run in emulation mode under DirectX and it is Sloooooow.
 
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