PremPro CS3 Features Announced

"Record DV and HDV video directly to hard disk using Adobe OnLocation CS3."

I guess it's all one product now.
 
jade8472 said:
DVRack is now called Adobe OnLocation and is bundled with Premiere CS3. It's an odd choice how they're not selling the software separately anymore. You think forcing people to buy the $800 Premiere vs. the $500 DVRack would cost Adobe some customers.
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I doubt it will cost them customers... besides the $800 Premiere is much more fully featured now as it also includes Encore... and with the Production Studio you also get Ultra for keying (anyone tried this? I read over the features and it looked pretty cool...)
 
filmguy123 said:
I doubt it will cost them customers... besides the $800 Premiere is much more fully featured now as it also includes Encore... and with the Production Studio you also get Ultra for keying (anyone tried this? I read over the features and it looked pretty cool...)
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What about the people who doesn't use Premiere as their NLE but still have needs for DVRack? I supposed Adobe is attempting to widen their Premiere user base but this could backfire.
 
jade8472 said:
"Record DV and HDV video directly to hard disk using Adobe OnLocation CS3."

I guess it's all one product now.
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HDV is not HD Pro, but I think it is included in on location, though they are very vague.
 
jade8472 said:
What about the people who doesn't use Premiere as their NLE but still have needs for DVRack? I supposed Adobe is attempting to widen their Premiere user base but this could backfire.
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DV Rack HD2, the previous version of Adobe OnLocation, is sold separately in the Adobe Store
 
Does anyone know if OnLocation will continue to allow you to choose the recording format? Specifically I am wondering if the QTAvid format will remain as I edit in Avid.

Aloha,
Cmus
 
Okay so if it's safe to assume that Adobe is not going to directly deal with the P2, MXF issue - what is in fact the best way to get MXF files onto Premiere Pro, having full use of all the meta-data etc.
RM
 
tazza said:
Okay so if it's safe to assume that Adobe is not going to directly deal with the P2, MXF issue - what is in fact the best way to get MXF files onto Premiere Pro, having full use of all the meta-data etc.
RM
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I use DVCPro Encoder from (what was) Serious MAgic.

I use P2 Genie to back up P2 cards to my hard drive then I convert the mxf files to new and separate avis ( a painless simple project) in a Media folder (that I then import to PremPro). Works great.

I am reall interested to know the difference between the Raylight workflow and the DVCPro Encoder workflow.

eg. Question : Does the Raylight create intermediary clips and is there a down side to that process?. I thought that meant the intermediary clips relied on keeping the mxf files in the system also (but I maybe wrong).

Maybe someone in the know could start a New tread on this topic.


Edit:Sorry I realised that I did not address the metadata question. - My workflow does not see the metadata in PPRO but I could use the P2 viewer to access that if I ever thought I needed to.
 
Shooter said:
I use DVCPro Encoder from (what was) Serious MAgic.

I use P2 Genie to back up P2 cards to my hard drive then I convert the mxf files to new and separate avis ( a painless simple project) in a Media folder (that I then import to PremPro). Works great.

I am reall interested to know the difference between the Raylight workflow and the DVCPro Encoder workflow.

eg. Question : Does the Raylight create intermediary clips and is there a down side to that process?. I thought that meant the intermediary clips relied on keeping the mxf files in the system also (but I maybe wrong).

Maybe someone in the know could start a New tread on this topic.


Edit:Sorry I realised that I did not address the metadata question. - My workflow does not see the metadata in PPRO but I could use the P2 viewer to access that if I ever thought I needed to.
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raylight can convert mxfs to avi or quiktime, and can preform pulldown ect. during the process, ..you can choose to make smaller AVis which DO rely on the original MXFs to be intact, OR, you can choose to output FULLY independent AVIs which you can do whatever you want with and delete the MXFs if you wanted, but you dont have to do any of this. with the raylight PPRO plugin which is included with raylight, you can just open mxfs directly in PPro just like any other file. .. no special handling needed. no conversion. no intermediates. no nothing exept for copying the mxfs from your P2 card to your HDD, and drag/drop, import, copy/paste.. or however you want to open them in your editor like you would open up any other natively editable file in PPRO. basically with the PPRO raylight plugin PPRO handles your MXFs of any variety from the HVX DIRECTLY the same as it would any other naitively supported format. so you go directly from camera to edit.
 
Thanx Neil - appreciate the info you supplied. I might take a look at it although I am kind of happy with my workflow now (DVCPro Encoder).
 
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