Premiere w/24P basics

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andy_starbuck

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Is there a tutorial anywere on Premiere 1.5 with 24fps?

I'm confused about project types and when Premiere is performing pull-down and pull-up and a few other things.

I shot recently in 24P (not advanced), and my understanding is that when it hits the tape pull-up is already done and it is basically like any 30p or 60i stream and can be input using an NTSC project and edited on a 29.97 timeline. Is that correct?

And then the "Panasonic 24P" project in Premiere is really "pull-down on capture", intended only for 24P Advanced. And if I capture 24P or 30P or 60i in that project type it will perform pull-down randomly and make jerky unusable clips. Is that correct or does it do something else?

If I have 24P or 24P Advanced on a 24-drop timeline and want to perform pull-up and output a 29.97 NTSC stream, what do I do? Do I have to output the project to an AVI and then start a new NTSC project, then import the footage into a 29.97 sequence ? If it is 24P (not advanced) in a Panasonic-24P project, can I just output at 29.97?

Is it true that in Premiere you should always work in original clips and nested sequences, and that the only way to render out at full quality is to render uncomressed?

If I need to render out an edited clip for use in After Effects, should I render uncompressed or is there a different compressor I should use? Is the Microsoft DV compressor good for intermediate work (exporting and re-importing) or is another compressor better for this job, or is uncompressed the only way to go without losing quality?

Thanks for your help!
 
About your 24p issues:

premiere 1.5 isn't great at working with 24p normal...it automatically removes the pulldown so you loose a generation (some people preffer ot work this way because now you are only rendering 24 frame a second and you can burn a 24p ddvd) prmeiere 1.5 also has issues with importing any 24p footage intoa 60i timline and the only way to mix 60i and 24p footage is to either add a pull up to 24p advanced using a diffrent program and also to use a diffrent program to flag 24p normal footage not to remove the pulldown (these thigns are missing in 1.5 also) If you are just intrested in edintg 24p advanced footage and makeing a 24p dvd or backing up your 24p advanced footage ot tape premiere 1.5 works fine for that, its really when you start messing with 24 normal that you have issues (but most of the time you should be shoting with 24p advanced anyway)

about the codec question:

It all depends on how much effects and ccing you are going to be doing. You can compressed it out using the regular dv codec but if you want to really get intot he footage maybe do some bluescreening then you can choose a codec with better sampling like 4:2:2 dv50 codec or you can go fully uncoompressed if you have a lot of hard drive space and dont care
 
So when I shoot in 24p normal, which should just import to a 60i timeline and intercut with everything else, Premiere 1.5 attempts a pull-down as if it were 24P Advanced and blows the footage?

Rats!

Well, thanks for the info.
 
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