Premiere to AE Workflow And Exporting

[Mr.E]

Hello all, I've found this forum really informative and hope to learn a lot more and even share whatever little I know with other if the occasion arises.

So, I've shot some footage in with an HV30 that's at (1440 x 1080).

First, workflow within Premiere: I'm working on a TV show and decided to do segments in their own sequence. My reasoning was that I could use a final sequence to putt everything in the order I want. Because I have to use computer screenshots over some footage and plan to do this in After Effects I will be exporting the rough cut of the show to put in AE.

Should I refine the show in premiere before going to AE or does that not really matter?

Should I export each segment on its own, or go with my plan to do everything as one for export?

How should I export from premiere? My final output will be NTSC DVD. I don't know what made me think I could burn HD to a DVD, but I realise I will just have to output as NTSC DV from premiere when I have the final show.

But, how should I export from Premiere to go into AE? H.264 codec gives a much smaller file, but I was told this was more for the web and will cause a loss in quality.

From what I read, I can export as Full 1920 x 1080 as it will use a 1.33 aspect ratio. That's how the HV30 shoots, but you can get the full HD.

Since I am stuck using my not so great laptop, I am thinking it better to do the initial export from Premiere to AE in 720?

Is there anything I should export as anything in particular from AE to use in premiere?



Some background - I'm a student doing my final project, a TV show, and while everyone else has decided to go SD, I was the only brave soul to go HD. It has been a tough journey, but I am determined to make it

I appreciate any help!

 

[Jordan_S]

If you first open a new comp in AE, you can simply copy and paste your clips into it from Premiere. Aside from rough cuts, as much as possible should be done in AE. Output only once, and from AE.

 

[Mr.E]

You mean copy from the timeline in premiere and paste directly into AE?

EDIT: AE is really sucky when it comes to playback on my current system, while things play fine in premiere hence me wanting to use AE for the stuff premiere can't do which, as I have it in my mind now may mean going back and forth between the two programs.

 

[Jordan_S]

You mean copy from the timeline in premiere and paste directly into AE?

Yup.

EDIT: AE is really sucky when it comes to playback on my current system, while things play fine in premiere hence me wanting to use AE for the stuff premiere can't do which, as I have it in my mind now may mean going back and forth between the two programs.

Are you employing the use of RAM previews in AE?

 

[Mr.E]

Yep, using RAM previews. I also use the adaptive rendering thing, not Open GL. I know my machine isn't the best for this, but it's what I have to work with. The project was originally CS3, but dealing with crashing computers in school and me thinking I lost some of my work, I opened home on CS4 and now can't go back to CS3 :-/ I could probably export my sequences, but I'll make do for now.

So, RAM previews I've used, but given that it can play instantly in premiere, it's going to be a lot better to work with. I want to time a lot of stuff, like making things appear and disappear in time when certain things are said, and having realtime playback would be a big asset. This will take forever in AE, but not impossible.

Going to try copying and pasting right now. So, if this is the route I go, pasting from premiere - that means I have the luxury to export from AE as HD, right? Given that for what I need to do, which is produce a DVD are there any particular settings best for exporting this HD footage as SD? MOV? AVI? WINDOWS VIDEO? Many, many options, and I am sure there's someone who can probably tell me something that will give me little to no quality loss. Appreciate the help thus far.

 

[Jordan_S]

If you're going to go back and forth, use Dynamic Link.

You said your final output is DVD and you have CS4. Use Encore.

 

[Mr.E]

So, this is cool, copying and pasting works and it seems this is good route to go, however, some issues arise.

Please, let me know if I'm doing anything in an improper way here.

To start, I took one piece of raw footage and put it in AE, then made a new comp with that so it would be the proper size.

I found it looked smushed together, compared to premiere, and I chose "Toggle Pixel Aspect Ratio Correction" which made it look fine now that it is pressed.

I set the quality to quarter and hit Ram preview - this is going to take forever to render to the point where I can play in real time and decide where I want to add b roll, or have screenshots over. I am guessing I am going to have to render as I make changes too? Surprisingly I get sound, which in dealing with other video before did not happen. When unrendered I don't get audio while scrubbing unless I press ctrl, but it's not in a manner I can use.

As I said before, the way I am putting the show together is doing each segment as a sequence, then making one final sequence and putting the show in the order it should be in. From there I will copy and paste into AE. So far 2 sequences were pasted in - it had to import all the files associated, and the sequences became compositions, but from all indications it works well.

Are there any things I should ENSURE I do in premiere first, though? My mic was mono, so I guess I should do the fill left in premiere first before going to AE, but I am wondering about anything else I need to do by chance since this is a new method to me.

Sorry for being so wordy, I just want to ensure I am doing the right thing, and really want to get this right Thank you again for the help.

 

[Mr.E]

If you're going to go back and forth, use Dynamic Link.

You said your final output is DVD and you have CS4. Use Encore.

When I was first looking to do this on my laptop I was looking at proxy editing, but it was too tedious and time consuming - I thought it didn't have enough benefits given I have a timeframe.

As for going back and forth, if you're saying do rough cut in premiere and everything else in AE, then I won't need to. I am pretty much figuring out a proper work flow now working on a proper show as opposed to just mucking around making fun videos. I've yet to really learn the most effective way to do things. When I was first learning premiere (and wasn't really taugh properly) I would throw the video in the timeline and cut out the pieces I wanted. After learning about in and outpoints I have a good laugh at that, but when you don't know, you don't know. I'll look up dynamic link now, thanks.