Premiere CS4 Editing Guru Needed

EWS

EWS

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I posted a topic on this in GH1 workflow, but haven't gotten a response, so I thought I might try here instead.
I am syncing double system audio clips recorded on a Zoom H4n with the GH1 audio tracks. No problem syncing the tracks in the timeline with either a track below the main tracks or by overlaying the Zoom audio onto the main tracks via source window.
That part works fine, however if I try to place the newly synced clip back into the bin so I can cut from the source window, ( I really dislike cutting everything on the timeline) the clip reverts to the original audio, and I am right back where I started.
I haven't been able to come up with any solution to make this work, leaving me with only one logical and painstaking choice of having to mute the GH1 audio and re-render to a new uncompressed avi and re-importing.
After doing some searching and reading, I got the impression that this is a non issue in Final Cut. Can any FCP users verify this? If so, it sounds like they got it right.
Am I just really missing something simple here, or is there an easier way to go about this.
I have even tried Soundbooth, but it ends up even taking longer that re exporting from Premiere.
I tried Sonar because it handles AVI's as well, but my Cineform avi's locked it up. Any other third party options for syncing and replacing audio. I hear PluralEyes might become available for Premiere in the future. Does it only sync or will it replace old audio with the new?
Wow...this was supposed to be fun!
Any help or thoughts appreciated.
 
I don't have a GH1 and my workflow might be different than what you described but maybe you should try to drop the "synced" Sequence into a "new" sequence and cut it as a "clip" with sync sound?
 
You're looking at editing in the wrong way.

Yes it is better to cut in the cutting window but with multicamera editing, this isn't possible....as such

You can create a "sub-clip" which is basically a clip made from an existing item in your bin. You set the in a out points and then you will get a sub clip, if you have to sub clips which both start at the same time, you can sync them to gether much easier.

Not sure what you mean 100% so please post back.
 
Thanks for the replies!
I have been working with this this morning and so far far have had pretty good results by copying my new synced clips into new sequences and then dragging those to the source monitor and cutting from there. I just seems like an odd workflow, but I am still not where I want to be as far as my level of editing skills...however I am learning. Thanks and I will try making the subclips by setting the in point right at the slate clap...I am sure that will speed things up as well... I was just doing that on the timeline by dragging the clip.
I would like to hear workflow ideas from good editors who deal with larger projects as far as organisation and asset management.
Thanks Again!
 
When dealing with a big project, i find making multiple sequences help keep me organised, and then i will have a "master" sequence, where i will place one sequence after the the other and i will then play about with the sound until i like it.
 
I actually just learned how to use the other numbered markers feature in which you place markers that you assign the same number to in the source window at your sync points on all of the clips that you want to sync. Then simply select those clips in the timeline and click synchronize, markers, other numbered. This really speeds things up. Also by dropping the new audio right below the main track, then deleting audio track 1, audio 2 becomes audio 1 and the track stays linked.
Anyway this is the fastest method I have found so far, but who knows, there are probably many more way to get there.
This multicam edit feature really makes me want to pick up another Gh1 body.
Anyway, thanks everyone for the replies.
 
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