Poll for those of you who have used the Red Extensively

[Ryan Patrick O'Hara]

I have shot with the red about half a dozen times, but am now re-thinking things from articles I've been reading. I have become used to the 'normal' noise in the HVX200 and RedOne signals. It isn't THAT bad, and many cameras carry similar noise. But the project I am about to embark on has a look that I wish to be really clean of digital noise. I keep reading how daylight sensors like the RED perform much better in daylight settings. This makes total sense. But the question I pose today is by how much?

Of course a test would be best... but I lack the time or materials to do so at this point, hence the poll of public opinion. Think of it as 'ask the audience'.

I have ordered and have been thinking of dropping in an 80C filter. This does not take the tungsten to daylight totally, but corrects by 81 mireds... 151 are needed for 3200 -> 5600 (I think).... so for a 1 stop loss in sensitivity (80c), I am wondering if the results will be worth it. By shooting the camera closer to the daylight spectrum, will the noise be decreased enough to make it worth having to lose a stop?

I'm shooting on Zeiss Super Speeds which are 1.3 lenses, and I wanted to shoot at a t/2.8-4 shooting stop. (I hate wide open!) This is good for the lights I have right now, but I am afraid, if I use the 80c filter, I'll have to shoot at a T/2-2/8 range.

Is it worth it?

-ryan

 

[blaremedia]

Red with 80c

Red with 80c

I've used the 80d in a number of situations and it helps a lot sometimes and very little in others. the new color science is a lot better now and it's not as much of an issue. You will always have to crush the bottom 3 or 4 IRE to not see noise in the RAW signal. Often times under fluorescent lighting that is all over the place the 80d will help realign things when the tint also comes into play. Subtracting light to gain up certainly doesn't make much sense but it all depends on how much you are trying to dig from the darkness. the mids are REALLY clean most of the time even at around 4000K so it's usually only a problem when the whole thing is dark and orange.

 

[Ryan Patrick O'Hara]

Subtracting light to gain up certainly doesn't make much sense but it all depends on how much you are trying to dig from the darkness. the mids are REALLY clean most of the time even at around 4000K so it's usually only a problem when the whole thing is dark and orange.

Nah. I'm giving up one stop of sensitivity from the 80c and hoping to get less noise in the signal. I'm not going to get that stop back by using gain or anything else. It's a matter of sharpness and dof that I want to preserve...

Still on the fence. I guess I'll decide first thing tomorrow!