Please comment about my system config to run APProCS5 smoothly

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Pushpa de Silva

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Hi

Your (any) comments about following system is much appreciated. At present I am experiencing choppy video(draft quality video on monitor) and slowing the process on my Dell Dimension 8400(Pentium4/3.4GHz,2GB DDR2 RAM, 500GB HDD)when running Adobe PPro CS4. Video Camera used Sony PMW EX1 with Sony SXS memory cards.

The system I am intend to buy is mainly to run the APPRo CS5 initially and later associated Adobe Master Collection programs( Eg. Fireworks, Dreamweaver, After Effects,Encore, Flash, Illustrator, Photoshop and Soundbooth).

Dell Precision T7500 (Workstationchassis with 1100watts power supply (85%+ Efficiency Power Factor Correcting power supply)

Intel Xeon E5630 2.53GHz, 12M Cache, 5.88GT/S QPI, Turbo, 4C
Intel 5520 chipset
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Dell back-up and Rcovery Manager for Windows 7
24GB (6X4GB) DDR3 RDIMM Memory, 1333MHz, CC
600 GB (15000rpm) SAS HDD Drive(for C:\)
Two 600GB (15000rpm) SAS HDDs
PRC6/i SAS/SATA Hardware RAID Card
SAS Connector cable
SATA Cable for 2nd Optical drive
All SAS Drivs, RAID 5, 3 drive XtremeMusic
Addiional Broadcom 5722 10/100/1000 Ethernet Networking LAN Solution
Dell MS 111 USB Optical Mouse
Dell QuietKey Keyboard
3yr on-site warranty
2 Monitors - 24" - Dell MOdel G2410H Widescreen Flatpanel monitor s
Integrated Intel SATA 3.0GB/S controller with support for RAID
Integrated Broadcom 5761 Gigabit ethernet controller
Integrated High Def Audio

Slots: All full length except as noted
1 PCI-e X16 Gen2 wired as X4
2 PCI-e X16 Gen 2 slots wired as X8 (one is half length)
2 PCI-e X16 Gen 2 Graphics slots
1 PCI-X 64bit/100MHz slot with support for 3.3v or univrsal card
1 PCI 32bit/33MHz 5v slot

Standard I/O ports
11 USB 2 (2 on front panel, 6 on back panel and 3 internal)
IEE 1394a (One front, one rear)
1 Serial
1 Parallel
2 PS/2
1 RJ 45
1 e-SATA port on back panel
Stereo LINE-IN and Headphone LINE-OUT on back panel
Microphone & Headphone connector on back panel

Bays:
4 Internal 3.5" HDD Bays
3 xternal 5.25" optical bays, one of which can accommodate a fifth HDD
1 xtrnal 3.5" flex bay for floppy driv or Media crd Reader

Total Weight 25Kg
Your help on comments for above system are much appreciated.

Thanks.
 
That's a ridiculously good build, but do you really want to spend that kind of money? Hardware isn't what it used to be in that you could dump a couple of thousand and faithfully make the investment back through the years. PC hardware just becomes obsolete too fast to make it worth it, in my opinion.

Then again, if you have the money to throw around.. ;)

Why question is, why spend so much on 24GB of RAM (Are you editing hundreds of RED clips? Even then it's not necessary), when there isn't even a graphic card listed? The Adobe suite would benefit MUCH more from a strong Nvidia GPU, though RAM doesn't hurt either.

This prebuilt is much more suited towards servers and networking, particularly virtualization (I know a guy who blew $800ish on 24GB of RAM for just this purpose). It's not that this system is bad, but there's definitely disproportionate spending going on. Given that you're clearly ready to spend that much on RAM, I say go "high" with 12GB - that should keep you going for quite some time. Don't get a quadro card, they're wasteful unless you intend to do 3D rendering, otherwise go for a Geforce GTX 460 (480 if you want to spend some money, but there's a bigger bang-for-buck ratio on the 460, imo). Your hard drives are fine of course.

You hardly need Windows 7 Ultimate; Professional gets the job done for less money .

My last point would be the monitor choice. Again, with the money you're talking here, invest in a better monitor. People here will probably shriek at me saying this, but a high-tier, pre-color-calibrated monitor is *not* necessary. What IS necessary, is something other than a TN Panel monitor. Looking up your model, it's a TN panel, so expect varying color, brightness, and somewhat limited viewing angles. Go for an S-PVA, or IPS panel if you can. They've come down in price somewhat, so you should definitely be able to replace the monitor here.

Overall, you're just aiming high, but in the wrong direction. At least half the RAM you've chosen, get a GPU, and replace the monitor. I know many people here advocate RAID setups, so I'm not going to tell you to remove it, but do you really feel the need for a dedicated hardware RAID?
 
RX782 said:
That's a ridiculously good build, but do you really want to spend that kind of money? Hardware isn't what it used to be in that you could dump a couple of thousand and faithfully make the investment back through the years. PC hardware just becomes obsolete too fast to make it worth it, in my opinion.

Then again, if you have the money to throw around.. ;)

Why question is, why spend so much on 24GB of RAM (Are you editing hundreds of RED clips? Even then it's not necessary), when there isn't even a graphic card listed? The Adobe suite would benefit MUCH more from a strong Nvidia GPU, though RAM doesn't hurt either.

This prebuilt is much more suited towards servers and networking, particularly virtualization (I know a guy who blew $800ish on 24GB of RAM for just this purpose). It's not that this system is bad, but there's definitely disproportionate spending going on. Given that you're clearly ready to spend that much on RAM, I say go "high" with 12GB - that should keep you going for quite some time. Don't get a quadro card, they're wasteful unless you intend to do 3D rendering, otherwise go for a Geforce GTX 460 (480 if you want to spend some money, but there's a bigger bang-for-buck ratio on the 460, imo). Your hard drives are fine of course.

You hardly need Windows 7 Ultimate; Professional gets the job done for less money .

My last point would be the monitor choice. Again, with the money you're talking here, invest in a better monitor. People here will probably shriek at me saying this, but a high-tier, pre-color-calibrated monitor is *not* necessary. What IS necessary, is something other than a TN Panel monitor. Looking up your model, it's a TN panel, so expect varying color, brightness, and somewhat limited viewing angles. Go for an S-PVA, or IPS panel if you can. They've come down in price somewhat, so you should definitely be able to replace the monitor here.

Overall, you're just aiming high, but in the wrong direction. At least half the RAM you've chosen, get a GPU, and replace the monitor. I know many people here advocate RAID setups, so I'm not going to tell you to remove it, but do you really feel the need for a dedicated hardware RAID?
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Thx Rx 4 ur comments.
Sorry I have forgotten to mention the Video card..it's nVidia Quadro FX 4800 card. with 1.5GB RAM.

Do u know any particular model and brand of the monitor u are talking about?? Is it available with Dell?

FYI, I am from Australia and cost of the Super speed machine is around A$8700 including all taxes and 2 High Def monitors.

THis may be my last mechine..I do not have any intention to buy any more till I retire from work.. I am undergoing too much suffering using CS4 in low speed Dell machine which I have mentioned above(i.e. Dell Pentium 4 with 3.4GHZ Proc. speed with 2 GB DDR2 RAM)..

So what do u think??

Thx
Pushpa
 
Pushpa de Silva said:
THis may be my last mechine..I do not have any intention to buy any more till I retire from work.. I am undergoing too much suffering using CS4 in low speed Dell machine which I have mentioned above(i.e. Dell Pentium 4 with 3.4GHZ Proc. speed with 2 GB DDR2 RAM)..
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Well, it's worth pointing out you would see a massive improvement on an average modern home computer compared to your current spec.

What footage are you handling? 24GB is overkill for pretty much anything you're likely to be doing with it. And what features in Windows 7 ultimate do you need?

Look at what you need to do, and build according to that. Don't go for a ridiculous spec machine when you're most likely not going to need it. If, for instance, you're handling Red footage - you'd be better off investing in a better GPU than in more RAM.
 
1. Footages will be Weddings, Christening Events, Cultural Shows, etc.,
2. Some of the software needs Ultimate
3. What do u think about nVidia Quadro FX 4800?? Do u think it's ok if I go with Fx 3800?? I need 2 monitors to be connected.
FYI, I am using APPro CS4 now and may upgrade to CS5. I will use other programs included in Adobe CS4 Master Collection( Eg. After Effect, DReamwaver, Flash, tc.,)

Thx 4 ur input for my query.

Pushpa - Australia
 
don't buy that system... flat out. I was a die hard Dell user for years but my eyes have been opened to what you can build yourself. I just finished a system that would knock the pants off of that set up for about half the price... do some research on individual parts and build it yourself and save a ton of money... money you could spend on better monitors, etc.

Look where your chipset falls in the grand scheme of things when benchmarked:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

Also look at the price point for that processor compared to what Dell will install it for, you pay a HUGE mark up alot of the time...

Oh, and the GTX460 is the way to go... I got the Palit OC'ed version and it is running like a dream, thinking about getting another one and going SLI...
 
I recently upgraded to a 6 core amd processor, and the video stuttered during playback and scrubbing on Premiere cs5.

Got a Palit gtx 460 (2 gig version), did the CUDA hack, and oc'd it, and everything is working like a dream. Playback bar is all yellow with no reds.

Scrubs beautifully.

I'd say the video card is the single most important improvement you can do for your system you have.
 
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