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I'll stop using metaphors, and say the SDX900 is like digibeta, it looks great on a standard def monitor. Just don't expect wonders on a theater screen.mehnkle said:
2/3" is great... it's being Standard def that makes it a poor choice for a project intended for HDTV, or the big screen.
IMO you can have the finest standard def camera in all the land, it's still standard def.
It cannot compete with HD on an HD monitor, or theater screen.
terrorpictures
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SDX900 has been used in a number of high end productions. I know personally that this camera will give me what i want. I have seen films projected in theaters filmed with this cam. And its way better then the HVX. HVX gives a very grany projection on a big screen. Yet the SDX is clear picture all the time. The quality is great. In my opinion far better then the HVX.
terrorpictures
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Standard def IS better... in my opinion. then HD to project on big screens. HVX looks not very... but extremly grany. And specialy when u project it on a big screen. I have seen personally.
R Gale said:My God, you want to screen your movie in the local theater, and you went and spent $15,000 on a standard def camera(?!?)
I had to check the date, it's as if this thread had been written in 2004-05.
Standard Def?!?
For that same money, you could've gotten two HVX200's, plus several P2 cards. With variable frame rates, like the varicam.
Get a 35mm adapter like the M2 and you'll have a more convincing cinematic look than any 2/3" video camera can provide.
I agree with most of NBCshooter's excellent ideas, all except for one glaring difference. Standard def cameras were never built for Big Screen acquisition. The sdx900 makes beautiful pictures for standard def television, that's its domain, and it does it beautifully. But HDTV and the big screen are a different ballpark.
For the silver screen, a 1/3" HVX200 shooting 1080p/24p in DVCProHD kicks the pants off of any standard def camera.
I've seen comparisons blown up on the big screen at the DGA. The sdx900 looks mediocre/ok, but far inferior to HD due to its lack of... definition.
If your goal is a big movie screen or HDTV, you have absolutely no business fooling around with standard def.
Do some tests. compare and see for yourself.
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Seriously, you need to do more research. Whatever test you saw was a poor representation of HVX quality.terrorpictures said:
Come to L.A., go to Plastercity Post on Sunset Blvd., have them screen their HVX footage for you on their 30 foot screen. It will change your mind in a major way.
Don't take my word for it, ask Barry Green or Evinsky which is better for the big screen, SDX900 standard def or HVX200 1080p.
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terrorpictures
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Ok guys, just for you and most important me, I doing going to run a number of test on the DVX100B, on the SDX900 and the HVX200 1080p. i'll post pictures and footage, I am also going to run test in a big Paramount Screen, after the rnadom of these test I will then judge on picrure quality and i'll let this whole communuty judge on oon my footage. Remember that when you critict someone it does not always mean something mbad unless u make it that way. With all of you're help amd my knowledge I will be back later.
terrorpictures
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I wanna know what good experinces you seen personaly projected at the regulaer theater size.
terrorpictures
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ok, HD looks good with HD screens. For home viewes HD looks good to, if they have a HD TV at home. Some people are still stuck in old TV's and VHS. So if someone was to see my movie it would not be great. They rent my movie an it looks crappy because there TV Set IS NOT HD compatable. See then that brings problems, because the movie wont be seen the way it was meant to be showed because I know hundreds of people that have OLD TV Sets and they are still in the VHS era.. So now i am the most confuse person ever. Which is the best cam! By the way, I have not bought the SDX100 yet. I was about to, but not you all made me change my mind. And i see so many diffrent cams in shows and people just overload me with info when i go to electronic stores. All i want is a cam that is in at 5,000 10,000 range that will be to show in theaters, show a cinematic style, 24p and i'm good! And something that everyone can enjoy and see good quality picture, for old TV's, New Standard Def TVs, HDTV'. thank you very much. Once the pdoduction is over, we plan to distribute it on DVD, VHS for home viewing.
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Spartacus
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terrorpictures said:
hmm,
first you "only" want to spent 40k on "other gear", since you already have 4 dvxs(!), then suddenly your somehow convinced to buy a new cam, someone suggests the SDX, you try to find info on it and now all of a sudden ( I think in about one week) you have seen comparison of various SD and HD equipment, claiming the SDX and standard def to be much better than HD (well HVX HD...)
no offence: either you are a fastfastfast adopter or this threat is a hoax...
Well, if you just live life on the fast lane, good luck with your SDX, very nice cam, and choose a good place for the blowup...
terrorpictures said:
I found this strange, the DVX100B has only been around for a few months, so you couldn't have had them for a really long time. I'm just saying that because you sold 3 of them on EBay, and if you got it wrong... well, I'd hate to be one of the buyers finding out I got a DVX100A not a B
anyway, it seems you need to do some research about HD. It's very easy to down sample an HD project to SD and deliver it on SD DVD for everybody to see.
HD DVD/Blu Ray are only starting to come out so it will be a while before you can deliver HD to homes, so the only reason for you to shoot HD is big screen projection.
If your market is home TV sets and DVD/TV delivery, you should go for SD with a bigger CCD (2/3" sounds good) and better lens.
If the big screen projection is more important to you, I'd say go with HD. As others mentiond the HVX with a good lens adapter and the lens themself will be the way to go. Not only will the picture quality will be better on the large screen, the adapter will allow you to get that sweet DOF for the cinematic look that people expect when they go to the local theatre
Neurodancer
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Sounds like a lot of heat to get in the saddle. My advice is to rent everything for your first production. That being said I have acquired a lot of equipment and have used what I feel is sound advice by many members of this board. I did check with lots of resources and spend a solid 2 months of my time on research before purchasing.
I have a lot of regard for my hard earned resources. I can also remember being young, highly suggestible, and impetuous. Ah, the bad old days.
I have a lot of regard for my hard earned resources. I can also remember being young, highly suggestible, and impetuous. Ah, the bad old days.