Panasonic twin-lens full HD 3D Camera

I was really hoping that thing would disappear into obscurity -- sadly, that isn't the case.
 
I'm usually very open and very eager to learn the latest camera technology, but I am dreading the thought of having to learn 3D to stay current and competitive.
 
Well....

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Nevermind the fact thats its two hmc-40s in a hmc-150 body. Great, it's 3D, but with a HUGE DOF. Just what i always wanted.

(And yes, I relaize that there are many more features and some out there will have use for it. But come on... The 40? Really?)
 
Anybody got any idea about a 3D workflow for independents? What NLEs support it? How do you deliver? Geez.... just when thinks were gettin' good!
 
Shallow Depth of Field does not work well with 3D. It gave me odd feelings during some shots of Avatar. You'll see deeper DoF will be more important and successful with 3D. One of the perks I suppose; I'm sick of shallow Depth of Field being used only as a crutch. I got over it about 18 months ago.
 
It still does not have interocular distance as a variable, hence, it's a prosumer/amateur tool at best. Professionals who have the ability should want and desire the option of changing the interocular distance. I've been saying this from day 1. Then again, if you are just starting out, this may be a good tool to 'learn' on.
 
i think increasing the interocular distance would result to headaches and dizziness... well i wouldnt know but thats from what ive heard
 
The camera is a dream to work with, especially if you are learning 3d. The most amazing thing is that all that 3d mucking around is boiled down to a single roller. Setup takes about 2-3 minutes.

We hauled it to the top of a 1000 foot cliff, hiking a stupidly steep trail and we did it with a 2 person crew. We were set up and filming with it as fast as we were with our 500.

The part I still don't have my mind around quite right, is setting convergence based on screen size. The bigger the screen the less you want to mess around with it.

There are going to be a lot of channel clamouring for 3d content, and this camera is in a total sweet spot to give it to them.

Also shallow DOF in 3d is not what you're looking for.

Also monitoring live in 3d, do not roll the convergence. It's a total brain breaker.
 
walnutcrunch said:
The part I still don't have my mind around quite right, is setting convergence based on screen size.
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I'm looking for a little education here.

I see some people (who happen to be very well regarded and quite accomplished) state that being able to accurately and precisely adjust both interocular distance and convergence is more or less a must for proper 3D cinema.

Then I see others (generally of less stature) say that adjusting IO and/or convergence is more or less unnecessary and is only used to create "looks" - most of which shouldn't be done in the first place.

Are people essentially wasting money buying thousands of dollars in 3D rigs for their IO and convergence adjustment capability? Are those adjustments more or less a "fad" since 3D is newly (re)popularized?

What's the deal?
 
Think of angle of convergence as setting where the screen plane is. Things in front will pop-off or advance, while things behind that point will recede. Interoccular distance heightens or diminishes that effect. Of course that effect is already established with 'normal' interoccular distance, but a cinematographer can compress the effect of 3D or really blow it up by changing the distance. Making it very large will eventually create a crazy amount of separation between layers, but sometimes that can be very good too! Depending on the 'mood'.

Think of changing interoccular distance mid-shot. It would have a strange but different resemblance to a push-pull shot from say, jaws, or etc. The background would not compress or expand... but all the elements would drift away from each other. Cool yes?

Saying that interoccular distance should always mimick the natural distance between eyes is like saying all camera angles should be at eye height. There is art to be found in this variable, and Panasonic does not deliver it. Hence my opinion of a prosumer learning tool.
 
I really enjoyed shooting with Panasonic's 3D camera, the footage looked great. It will look even better once a Kipro is attached.
 
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