Panasonic Develops 8K Global Shutter Organic Sensor

This is also a Fuji partnership (or was), hopefully Fuji is doing the color science on it as well as the other parts of the design.

Also note that I didn't see a sensor size given, last I read was that they were having problems making these big... So this might be a cell phone sensor.
 
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Greg_E said:
This is also a Fuji partnership (or was), hopefully Fuji is doing the color science on it as well as the other parts of the design.

Also note that I didn't see a sensor size given, last I read was that they were having problems making these big... So this might be a cell phone sensor.
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Panasonic has promised many times that they will have 8k cameras by the 2020 Olympics and this is very likely the path to that goal. A lot can happen in two years.
 
Thomas Smet said:
Panasonic has promised many times that they will have 8k cameras by the 2020 Olympics
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Yes. For example, last year, Panasonic confirms its goal to launch a GH camera with 8K by 2020 (43rumors.com, 1/18/2017).

Also, today's announcements sounds like one two years ago. We even had a thread here about it, http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?344134-Panasonic-s-organic-sensor (2/3/2016).

It seems to take several years to develop electronics, which is fine. I just wish there was more continuity between announcements. Instead of making it sound new, say, "Hey, you know that sensor we started working on a few years ago? Well, we're still working on it. We hope to have something out by 2020."

There is apparently a yearly conference called the International Solid-State Circuit Conference, and apparently if companies don't announce something at this conference, it's not cool. So expect to hear something about sensors around Valentine's Day every year.

What exactly is the progress being announced? When they say "research" or "technology" --- anything besides a fully working camera --- it could be anything. Maybe the guys in lab coats figured out, this year, how to connect the wires better, or how to take care of that pesky static that cropped up when they wired it in such-and-such a way, or maybe they perfected the ingredients of the organic goo that they intend to smear all over the front of the sensor but don't know how yet to make it stick. Next year they announce that they've figured out how to make it stick. In a couple more years, maybe they'll have a complete sensor, ready to pop into a camera. And then in a couple more years, a real camera. I don't know which stage they're at.
 
I have to wonder if the 8K image samples they showed were even from this new sensor, we can hope but they might have taken liberty and used a different camera in stills mode to grab the frames they needed.
 
Greg_E said:
I have to wonder if the 8K image samples they showed were even from this new sensor
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I would expect that these image samples were simply illustrations of what their new technology can do. We'll have to wait until this new tech is in an actual camera before we can start to make comparisons.
 
I think Sony and Ikegami will have the remote parts tied up, Panasonic doesn't have a really good base station and transmission method for their cameras. But for other things like multiple cameras recording internally, they might be good. Hitachi might surprise us as well, they were once very strong in big cameras for remote TV, I know they are still keeping their toes wet.
 
The comments here say it's an APS-C sensor (8k with 3µm pixels is 24mm wide). People over there are usually very well informed about these matters.
 
Its aspect ratio is 16:9.

THE MATH:
Panasonic says the sensor is 8K across and 36 megapixels total. So its height must be 4.5K.
8,000 x 4,500 = 36,000,000
8,000 / 4,500 = 1.78 = 16:9
 
TheDingo said:
This also might be a Super35 sensor given that Panasonic doesn't make an APS-C camera.
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The Varicam LT has a 23.6mm-wide sensor (link), they can call that s35 because it's close enough: s35 would be 24.89mm-wide (link). Still, I will call it APS-C, because 23.6mm is the exact definition of APS-C. Potato, potato.

BTW, on that same link above: the varicam LT has a 16:9 aspect ratio as well.
 
Will it be made of cow skin, plant extract or why is it organic?

Or are they proclaiming organic as the look, before they even have a sensor? This is not for them to say but for us. It didn't turn out as planned with the Eva.
 
The term organic comes from the fact that it is made from an organic polymer. This is a term long used in chemistry for a large class of polymers. There is nothing to be read into this other than they are using normal terminology for the material used in the sensor. Panasonic has patents in this technology going back at least 15 years.

Of course, for marketing sake, it sounds much more interesting to say organic sensor rather than polymer sensor.
 
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Its aspect ratio is 16:9.

THE MATH:
Panasonic says the sensor is 8K across and 36 megapixels total. So its height must be 4.5K.
8,000 x 4,500 = 36,000,000
8,000 / 4,500 = 1.78 = 16:9
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If this sensor is slated for a future 8K camera, wouldn't it be at least 8,192 x 4,608?
 
Tzedekh said:
If this sensor is slated for a future 8K camera, wouldn't it be at least 8,192 x 4,608?
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There is some speculation that this is a technology test sensor that was not designed for any specific camera model, so the actual size is irrelevant at this point in time.
 
Tzedekh said:
If this sensor is slated for a future 8K camera, wouldn't it be at least 8,192 x 4,608?
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Could also be 7,680 if they use the broadcast form of 8k. 1920 x 4 or double the width of UHD. Since Panasonic’s main goal is to have 8k by the 2020 Olympus I’m willing to bet its the broadcast flavor of 8k.
 
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