P2 and CS4

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haris

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I'm about to move to CS4 in order to edit P2 content

So, I'm urged to know other member's personal experiences regarding stability (crashes ect) while working with P2 (DVCPRO-25-50-HD, average 1hour long projects)

in a few words: should I go for it or start looking for other NLE options?



PS. I'm on PC platform, and used (and like) to work with the PPro, so I'm not keen to move away from it...
 
I have had problems with DVCproHD only. Just got through with a 100 min doc and was praying my computer (and Premiere cs3) would keep it together. Lots of cs3 crashes...ended up doing the "3Gig XP switch" and that helped a bit. I have 2 TB of DVCPRO HD native files and found that it is absolutely best to use P2CMS to "preedit" raw footage so as not to overload Premiere with too many assets. #1 though is to keep assets well managed and sparse as possible.

If you want a more bomber system edit and keep all assets on striped raid 0 arrays or esata drives. Go to a 64 bit OS (wait for windows7) These are things have learned along the way of my first very large DVCPROHD project.

FYI I have a 3.1 GHZ core 2 duo, 4 gigs of ram, and have been using USB drives(Big NONO for HD!!) for this project. 512 M NVIDIA graphics processor, and an asus P5K board.

Cheers
 
thank you, sharing that is very helpful... I have to admit that for all my love to PPro I'm still not convinced that will it be the best solution for editing P2.
On the other hand I don't know if I'm really mistaken for considering Edius 5 as an alterantive...
 
If you already love PP, then PP CS4 is definitely the right choice for you. It has the best P2 integration of any NLE. The only thing that tends to keep people away from it is that they don't care for Premiere in general -- but you do, so you're set.
 
thanks, staying with PP will make for sure my life easier (not having to go through a learning process of a new NLE)
btw, may I ask "why" people don't care for Premier in general? is there something I'm missing?
 
haris said:
btw, may I ask "why" people don't care for Premier in general? is there something I'm missing?
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Premiere is not a perfect app by any means (Adobe seems to not understand the saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it") but I think it's one of the most progressive NLE today in term of how quickly new features are being integrated. It still got a bad rap from it's inauspicious beginning as a consumer level, bug-ridden program, but it's definitely shaping up well within the last few years.
 
it's really funny, I feel like being away (editing for 5 years and never looked how NLE's progressed in the mean time) and now that I "came out of my cave" in a need for an HD (P2) editor I get all these contradicting testimonials. I do appreciate and respect all advises a lot, but for the sake of summarization, let me say what I understood till now:
Premier for richer features and versatility, Edius for real-time and stability...?

 
If you have a fast system, and the newest updates for PP CS4 it is VERY stable for editing P2. I am editing Stricken on a dual quad core 2.4ghz I7 set up, windows vista 64 ultimate, with 24gb of ram. It Is amazingly smooth. I recommend it. The earlier versions before the updates were a bit glitchy, so make sure you have the newest updates installed.
 
Depends on your graphics card. If you've got an nVidia CUDA card, you might find it plenty acceptable for 720/24p editing. 1080/24p or 1080/60i, not so much, unless you've got a firebreathing graphics card.
 
I have an ATI 1650 grcard but willing to upgrade all the rest to the following:
Core 2 Duo 8500 3.16GHz, 8GB RAM, Vista Basic 64bit.
will it make any "worth to try" kind of difference?
 
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haris said:
I have an ATI 1650 grcard but willing to upgrade all the rest to the following:
Core 2 Duo 8500 3.16GHz, 8GB RAM, Vista Basic 64bit.
will it make any "worth to try" kind of difference?
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Definitely perform the Adobe suggestions for setting up Vista. Look into shutting off Smartfetch. I recently edited a P2 HD project with quite a few assets and found that Smartfetch was causing lots of unneeded disc activity.


http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/405/kb405744.html
 
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haris said:
I have an ATI 1650 grcard but willing to upgrade all the rest to the following:
Core 2 Duo 8500 3.16GHz, 8GB RAM, Vista Basic 64bit.
will it make any "worth to try" kind of difference?
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I think that setup should be great. I do not know much about the graphics card but the rest should let you edit no problemo.
 
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