overshooting

Actors bug me. They don't care if they make mistakes. They show up late and can't get in trouble because I can't yell at them. Not that yelling at late crew members helps, but my crew knows to not be late or else I'll be ruined. My cast just doesn't care...they show up 15 minutes late, or call and say they need directions after I already emailed it to them twice! They're lazy. I should probably upgrade to paid actors. That way they are invested in my film...maybe they'll give a damn.
 
I went to another shoot, same director, yesterday and this time, though it was
slightly better than before, his mindset was to still get every possible shot.
Preproduction planning is so important (way to go, Briceman) and having a mindset
where you are telling a "particular" story is even better.

"Who's the scene about" -- and go from there, instead of it being about every
angle plausible.

Charli
 
I thank god I trained as an Actor before Directing...For me the whole process is to enable them to emote...If they are stressed too much your just causing problems for yourself...My main weapon is ...THANKS... I use it alot and make sure everyone is praised at the end of the shoot...Do Actors annoy me?? Of course as much as lazy runners but will I swallow my pride to get what I want...Everytime baby...

Back to the point of over shooting...
Its a fine line...You can kill a cast/ crew with overdoing it...everytime...if a shot has gone wrong...my crew know I will shoot till I get it, but as soon as I know it's the one, I won't take another four just to be safe.

J.p.
 
-zach- said:
Didn't Kubric have money?


Jamie Foxx said (in the Extras of the Collateral DVD) that when you're shooting on film you'll run out of time, and you might be in a great take of a scene, and you'll have to stop. So when Michael Mann is using his 60 minutes of HD, he can get great takes. From a production standpoint this is awesome, but as stated above, even though the tape is cheap, the crew, the catering, transportation, everything else isn't cheap, and that's why unless I have a huge budget and can afford a huge feature film, I would try to avoid overshooting as much as I can.

z
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The amount of times that I have seen that happen could be counted on less than one hand. Film crews and camera people never take a chance on a "roll out" if the scene is that important.
 
this just sounds like an inexperienced director and maybe a lack of a strong producer or AD...there needs to be someone there to say "we have to move on" or "we need to be out of the bedroom by lunch"...stuff like that.

they will probly end up throwing 3/4 of the shots away in the edit anyway...

it helps to have a small list of essential shots needed to tell the story. just the basics that you need to at least be able to cut with.

once you get those shots, everything else is gravy. from there you can whip out your other shot list of cool angles or you can just experiment.

helps to have an AD that you can plan your day with as well.
 
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