One more question M-Audio 410 owners!

petelms

petelms

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Hi.

One more question for M-Audio 410 owners...or someone else who might know this...:thumbsup:

Oke, I'm still wondering about how I could power this 410 on the field with my laptop which has only 4-pin firewire connection...so, what do you think one of these PCMCIA firewire cards for laptops...? I think they have 6 pin connections...what do you think, would the 410 run from this kind of card? Anyone ever tried or heard? This would be a cool solution...:thumbsup:

Here's a pic of one of those cards:

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Thanks.
 
I have a 410 and a laptop and I power it with the AC adapter when I'm in the field. I've never tried a 6 pin Firewire PCMCIA card, but I read somewhere they either don't actually send power or don't send enough to power the 410. I wish they did, though.

Has any actually tried one of these cards?
 
Ahaa, briscoe! Thanks, let's hope someone has tried this kind of card...it would be so cool...true portability...:thumbup:
 
petelms said:
Ahaa, briscoe! Thanks, let's hope someone has tried this kind of card...it would be so cool...true portability...:thumbup:
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No clue; I only use the FW410 with my home system.

Why is it that you're so objected to the power supply idea again?

And how long would the notebook battery run while powering the 410?

David Kuznicki
Production Manager, WGTE-TV30.
 
David, because I'm planning to do some recording on the field with no electricity around. :)

I think another solution would be to use some kind of battery power...Is the 410 working with 12 V? Then it might be plugged straight from the car battery...:happy: Or use the inverter...
 
Okay, my 5 cents:

DAMN that pcmia card looks cool, but obviously, if it doesnt send power, you'll be screwed, and if it does, your laptop battery life will REALLY suffer (esp if you use the phantom).

I just checked and it uses 12volt DC, 1000mA. So thats perfect to run a off a car battery, right? Or, of course, the faithful 4 pin xlr lead paste cam battery (I used these a lot at film school to run stuff).

So, all in all, I reckon it might just be feasible. But, if you dont come right, heres an idea: the Tascam US122 - it does two channels (i think, correct me if im wrong), with phantom, and at 24bit/48k. Runs usb, and is bus powered. For me, that little guy is an AWESOME no batterys PC recorder - its not even too pricy. Just an option...
 
Info from Sound on Sound site.

Info from Sound on Sound site.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar04/articles/maudio410.htm#Top


The M Audio web site provides all the details, and in essence the 410 will work with most of the newer 1394A 'second-generation' products, but not with the older first-generation 1394 ones. A list of compatible 1394A PCI adaptor cards is posted, while Firewire host controllers based on the NEC1394 chip set are not recommended, although you can work round the problems if you're prepared to use the supplied AC adaptor instead of powering the 410 via the Firewire buss (see Powering The 410 box for more details). Apple Macs that meet the minimum spec will all work.

The Firewire 410 can be powered parasitically from a six-pin Firewire port, and comes with a high-quality, two-metre six-pin-to-six-pin Firewire cable for this purpose. Although USB 2.0 ports can supply up to 500mA at 5 Volts, six-pin Firewire ports must offer up to 1.25 Amps at 12 Volts, which is simply beyond the capabilities of laptop PSUs and batteries, so many laptops only offer the four-pin variant, which doesn't supply buss power to external devices. A suitable adaptor cable is included for these four-pin Firewire interfaces (commonly referred to as iLink), and M Audio also include a 12V DC 1A wall-wart power supply. However, if you really want to make your recording rig totally mobile, you can buy 12V batteries of varying capacity to power the Firewire 410, as long as you can make up a suitable adaptor lead.
M Audio also have various caveats on their web site, including a warning that although you can buy PCMCIA Firewire adaptor cards with a six-pin port, they don't provide buss power either, since the Cardbus spec doesn't support this.
 
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