octava mic question
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MattinSTL
Sound Modulator
If you only get one cap get the hyper.
Since I had a guy who NEVER boomed before and we were shooting in the dead of night (pun intended) I decided to use the Oktava Hyper even outdoors. I will say that at distances of 10' away it didn't sound so good... and you're gonna' hear that... but in a couple quick clips the voices are RIGHT there and it's pretty impressive considering the Oktava was still 5-6' overhead in THOSE shots.
If you boom right you'll be surprised at how good the Oktava hyper really is.
I'm gonna' post some grabs from Arrested Development's BTS stuff so you can see how they boom and maintain distances... and how they use hypers and shotguns... it's very educational to hear the show and then see what the mic was doing at the time... You really want 2' distances from mouths... but even 3' will work so-so... and for how important distance really is I was surprised at the Oktava in even longer distances (that we had)... but after 6' you're REALLY losing it. You'll hear the crickets go through the roof when the mic was super far... 'cause I had to pump the whole cut.
Oh and BTW, don't expect my flick to have good dialog... I'm just saying that for the outrageous distances to the mic, some of it was surprising... in the next contest I'm gonna' shoot two cameras so one is wide enough to see everything going on around the scene.
Oh and... where da' fug's those zombie flicks? I'm FEENIN' to see what everybody did...
Dj said he used 120 people!
Since I had a guy who NEVER boomed before and we were shooting in the dead of night (pun intended) I decided to use the Oktava Hyper even outdoors. I will say that at distances of 10' away it didn't sound so good... and you're gonna' hear that... but in a couple quick clips the voices are RIGHT there and it's pretty impressive considering the Oktava was still 5-6' overhead in THOSE shots.
If you boom right you'll be surprised at how good the Oktava hyper really is.
I'm gonna' post some grabs from Arrested Development's BTS stuff so you can see how they boom and maintain distances... and how they use hypers and shotguns... it's very educational to hear the show and then see what the mic was doing at the time... You really want 2' distances from mouths... but even 3' will work so-so... and for how important distance really is I was surprised at the Oktava in even longer distances (that we had)... but after 6' you're REALLY losing it. You'll hear the crickets go through the roof when the mic was super far... 'cause I had to pump the whole cut.
Oh and BTW, don't expect my flick to have good dialog... I'm just saying that for the outrageous distances to the mic, some of it was surprising... in the next contest I'm gonna' shoot two cameras so one is wide enough to see everything going on around the scene.
Oh and... where da' fug's those zombie flicks? I'm FEENIN' to see what everybody did...
Dj said he used 120 people!
MattinSTL
Sound Modulator
Agreed... I don't have the omnis and I don't want 'em.
Aside from degrees of realism which are often determined by price... there are only 2 base things that make a mic worth a ****:
1) How well the mic hears what you want it to hear.
2) How well the mic rejects what you don't want it to hear.
Omnis don't do number 2.
The right choice of mic for any given situation is an assessment of your needs based on 1 and 2 together.
Aside from degrees of realism which are often determined by price... there are only 2 base things that make a mic worth a ****:
1) How well the mic hears what you want it to hear.
2) How well the mic rejects what you don't want it to hear.
Omnis don't do number 2.
The right choice of mic for any given situation is an assessment of your needs based on 1 and 2 together.
Kelly Olsen
Well-known member
oleg said:
Please excuse the lack of sophistication in this question, but could you explain the "high pass in line filter?"
This is the first mention I have seen in relation to the Oktava which I plan on getting for a soon to be purchased DVX 100 A.
Do you use/need one if you are going directly into the DVX with a Hyper Okatava?
Thanks
usially octava is very sensitive to low fq rambling , wind ( during the boomswinging)
so if you dont have mixer that can cut it and send normal signal to the camera you can make overloads on your camera pres , which dont like overs on low fq
better to cut , 60-80hz for dialog
so if you dont have mixer that can cut it and send normal signal to the camera you can make overloads on your camera pres , which dont like overs on low fq
better to cut , 60-80hz for dialog
MattinSTL
Sound Modulator
Of course extraneous noise won't exist in a controlled studio environment... you never mentioned controlled studio environment when you posed the question.
"Interiors" does not equal "controlled studio environment"... interiors are TYPICAL rooms with whatever acoustics you are forced to deal with... aside from a few things you may bring or change to help the recording. Hypers are for dialog... with interiors.
If you're using it in a controlled studio environment and it's all vocals then I'd still get the hyper... If you're gonna' split it between vocals and music then I'd get the cardioid.
Bottom line is with a controlled studio environment anything will sound good... but I would still avoid omnis.:thumbsup:
"Interiors" does not equal "controlled studio environment"... interiors are TYPICAL rooms with whatever acoustics you are forced to deal with... aside from a few things you may bring or change to help the recording. Hypers are for dialog... with interiors.
If you're using it in a controlled studio environment and it's all vocals then I'd still get the hyper... If you're gonna' split it between vocals and music then I'd get the cardioid.
Bottom line is with a controlled studio environment anything will sound good... but I would still avoid omnis.:thumbsup:
Anthropophagous
Member
how do the oktavas perform (using the hyper cap) with music?
MattinSTL
Sound Modulator
I've been happy with mine for vocals and acoustic guitar. I haven't tested them with other instruments, but I also know people like to put 'em over drums. I think you'd like 'em for most instruments as long as you take normal precautions with the room acoustics and mic placement.