thekeygun
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here's the article
http://www.1010wins.com/New-York-City-to-Charge--300-for-Film-Permits/6905123
thoughts?
http://www.1010wins.com/New-York-City-to-Charge--300-for-Film-Permits/6905123
thoughts?
NYC proposing fees for film permits
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Will Clegg
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"The city said it would waive the initial fee if a low-budget production could demonstrate 'unreasonable hardship.' "
Not sure how one would qualify for that... But $300 really ain't that much for a permit.
Not sure how one would qualify for that... But $300 really ain't that much for a permit.
HorseFilms
Look ma no hands
I'm surprised to hear that they haven't been charging at least that much all along.
xmephestox
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actually NYC used to be very good and generous with its permits, they like cultivating the film community, and it's just good PR to have NYC in tons of movies and tv shows. A lot of productions kind of hampered that over the years, and for gorilla low budget shooters, 300 dollars could mean the difference between being able to shoot there and not being able to shoot there. It's easy to say 300 dollars isn't so bad, but what you have 4 separate locations in a week, that adds up to 1200 dollars, some people shoot entire projects on just a few thousand dollars.
also the city has been going bankrupt for awhile now, they want every penny they can get -_-
also the city has been going bankrupt for awhile now, they want every penny they can get -_-
thekeygun
Well-known member
I'm curious how rigorous this would be enforced.
I've never been hassled shooting a time-lapse or something on sticks in the city... The only time where we've really NEEDED a permit was in conjunction with the parks department regarding shooting on city/state park property.
I think this will prevent *some* low budget films from actually seeking out permits.
I've never been hassled shooting a time-lapse or something on sticks in the city... The only time where we've really NEEDED a permit was in conjunction with the parks department regarding shooting on city/state park property.
I think this will prevent *some* low budget films from actually seeking out permits.
Will Clegg
Veteran
From the article:
"The charge would be required once for every movie, commercial or music video shoot, no matter how many days the production was working in the city, and once a season for television projects."
It won't add it up - it's a one time charge per production.
I think everyone forgets that issuance of a permit requires proof of production insurance, hence in order to get a permit, one needs to lay down $1100+ per day for just dialogue scenes and submit proof on insurance, now it's another $300 on top. So your 1 day exterior dialogue short film is going to cost $1400 instead of $1100.
On top of this, I'm sure enforcement for permit-less guerrilla shoots will go up, since now only did you not take out insurance, but you did not pay the city, I'm sure people will start getting tickets and fines.
All NYC needs is more Laws and hoops to jump through, as if it were not difficult enough to shoot here already.
The Mayors Office and NYC Film Commision sites that it will create or rather remove an about 1,000,000 budget hole per year.
Out of the 40 or so Major Studio Films shot in NYC. and 20 or so Major Network TV Series per year, (I calculate that to be what 60 x $300) not even touching $1,000,000 ?
Where does the rest of this money come from? - The little guy.
Every TV/Spot, Music Video, Indy film etc... etc.. etc... they will carry the major cost of this $1mil the guys who shoot every other day for different projects.
Guys who will need to pony up $300 every other week.
This $300 is now on top of the $3200/day that you have to pay to shoot inside of NYC buildings. Which also started this year.
Nobody who has every really dealt with the NYC Film commission can say that this $300 is _FAIR_ or _NOT A LOT_.
The law will be ratified June 3 2010.
Prior to this there is ample oportunity to connect with your district city councel member and have your voice heard, whether _for_ or _against_ this proposition.
This is what I'm doing on Monday.
(I hope this post does not cross over into on the _politics_ side of things.)
READ THIS ARTICLE: http://www.wral.com/entertainment/story/7491280/
Sure for CBS execs it's a drop in the bucket, but then again they're not going to be the Million Dollar fee payers. = Their fair share is $300.00 which is indeed a drop in a bucket for "The Good Wife". It costs them that much for a stand-in. And given that that production also got free access to REAL COURT houses to film in in Jamaica Queens at night, (unlike Law & Order, that built sets..) they could say nothing but positive things about this $300.00 hike.
It's the $5,000 music video that will have to knock off $300 from their budget.
I don't know how it works in other states and municipalities, I'm certain states like Delaware that have a no-tax approach to everything would just let you film, since it would generate income for their residents/constituency - other states may have very drastic and obfuscated rules as well. Who knows. I personally just care about where I live now, and it's beginning to look bad.
On top of this, I'm sure enforcement for permit-less guerrilla shoots will go up, since now only did you not take out insurance, but you did not pay the city, I'm sure people will start getting tickets and fines.
All NYC needs is more Laws and hoops to jump through, as if it were not difficult enough to shoot here already.
The Mayors Office and NYC Film Commision sites that it will create or rather remove an about 1,000,000 budget hole per year.
Out of the 40 or so Major Studio Films shot in NYC. and 20 or so Major Network TV Series per year, (I calculate that to be what 60 x $300) not even touching $1,000,000 ?
Where does the rest of this money come from? - The little guy.
Every TV/Spot, Music Video, Indy film etc... etc.. etc... they will carry the major cost of this $1mil the guys who shoot every other day for different projects.
Guys who will need to pony up $300 every other week.
This $300 is now on top of the $3200/day that you have to pay to shoot inside of NYC buildings. Which also started this year.
Nobody who has every really dealt with the NYC Film commission can say that this $300 is _FAIR_ or _NOT A LOT_.
The law will be ratified June 3 2010.
Prior to this there is ample oportunity to connect with your district city councel member and have your voice heard, whether _for_ or _against_ this proposition.
This is what I'm doing on Monday.
(I hope this post does not cross over into on the _politics_ side of things.)
READ THIS ARTICLE: http://www.wral.com/entertainment/story/7491280/
Sure for CBS execs it's a drop in the bucket, but then again they're not going to be the Million Dollar fee payers. = Their fair share is $300.00 which is indeed a drop in a bucket for "The Good Wife". It costs them that much for a stand-in. And given that that production also got free access to REAL COURT houses to film in in Jamaica Queens at night, (unlike Law & Order, that built sets..) they could say nothing but positive things about this $300.00 hike.
It's the $5,000 music video that will have to knock off $300 from their budget.
I don't know how it works in other states and municipalities, I'm certain states like Delaware that have a no-tax approach to everything would just let you film, since it would generate income for their residents/constituency - other states may have very drastic and obfuscated rules as well. Who knows. I personally just care about where I live now, and it's beginning to look bad.
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